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IKEDA: I have a rental properties, and this is in the industrial area. And what I think <br />was it was leased to Kanoelehua Association, and somehow, I don't know what <br />happened, but it caught fire. So it's partly damaged. So it's been vacant for the past <br />maybe ten years, so when the State asked me if I would be willing to exchange labor for <br />free rental, and I said since I'm not using it I might just as well go ahead, because I <br />kind of like the idea of having people in there, because it becomes secure. Right now, <br />because it's vacant, there is sometimes homeless people go in the building, parts of the <br />building. I see graffiti on the building, and so I feel that I have to put in some money to <br />buy new materials, but this is where the State comes in, and they're going to provide the <br />labor to bring the thing back up to a useable standard. But right now it's vacant, and I <br />think it would be beneficial for both sides, because it will make the complex a little more <br />secure, because I have about two acres there. <br />ROWE: Let me add and support what he's saying. Part of our initiative here is that we <br />will try to reintegrate the offenders, because some of them have to do community <br />services. So what we want to do is, in kind, bring them in, have them do community <br />service. At the same time it's a facility that they will benefit. So we have already certain <br />construction companies in place that would be willing to come in and help guide the ex- <br />offenders or the offenders that are inside to help us build the thing. So all we need to <br />have is the materials on his side, purchases, and we can make it happen. Again, there's a <br />lot of potential for us. Just imagine the facilities really, we can do a lot of different <br />things, hold workshops continuously, we can have meetings, we can have a storage area <br />for people that may need sofas and stoves and ice boxes, that we get donations from <br />most important, clothing that they need, with shoes and socks and underwears and all <br />that kind of things. We get donations from the hotels that give us shampoos and soaps. <br />You asked me why, I said they don't have these things. Once they're- -upon release, <br />they're on their own. So they don't realize how much it costs to try to help them out by <br />giving them a lot of these needed items that they will need to get a job. <br />LCM: So you visualize this as being like even having staff on site all the time, <br />somebody there all the time. <br />ROWE: We're also working with the faith -based organizations, non-profit agencies, that <br />would be willing to come and put people there to supervise, to watch what's going on. <br />Our thought process is this: that in time we can have mentorships done with the positive <br />guys that are doing really well on the outside, and teach them how to be mentors, and <br />they can in turn, in kind, help us to maintain and facilitate activities. We've already gone <br />to the extent where we're noticed with , which is positive, action alliances <br />in Puna. They do a lot of things that's all, mostly 99% ex- offenders. We have them doing <br />networking with the people, their vendors out there, so we're trying to build this base, but <br />we're all over. We want to try to see if we can make one area. And as you all know, to <br />reduce recidivism, if it gets them in one location, close to the university, that's even better <br />for us, because they can, you know, eventually go to school. With the help of the Hawai `i <br />Community College and the Hilo Community School for Adults, we're creating adult <br />basic ed classes, community and learning centers for computers. That's all part that is <br />being offered now, and we're hoping to expand. <br />5 <br />