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chance monies are out therefor and if you're able to secure a lot of those
<br />monies, that money can be used to what we're doing, then we'll know we can sustain
<br />ourselves there. Again, right now the monies are available, we just got to write for it and
<br />with our Hawai `i Island, we do-non-profit we can bring that money in and target it
<br />there. But everything as you guys know takes time. But we want to make sure that we're
<br />above the ground, above the water, and present this in front of you guys so that we don't
<br />have to say we're you know, we want to make sure everything's up front.
<br />IKEDA: And as I explained, too, it's not unusual for me to loan property
<br />I used to loan the Hui Okinawa Club an office space for over ten years. If you were to
<br />put it in perspective of what the income I'm getting now, it would be like over $200, 000.
<br />So I really don't need the money it's something like we give back to the community,
<br />because at one time we were a big business family in Hilo. I used to own the 7 -Up
<br />company, my family owned the Hilo Macaroni Factory, all the business, and so even
<br />when we were running the business, I used to give ten percent of my profits back to the
<br />community in donations or in products, or whatever.
<br />LUM: So eventually, when they're able to be self - sufficient, they would just become
<br />another tenant, then.
<br />IKEDA: It's up to them, because a lot of times these tenants
<br />LUM: - -Ten, fifteen years down the line, when they've got it all together
<br />ROWE: - -Yeah, we hope.
<br />IKEDA: A lot of times they want to move out, because they want to go to another facility.
<br />You know, a lot of times they'll outgrow the place, and that's the reason (could not
<br />decipher).
<br />L UM: - -That would be good, if you outgrew it and had another place.
<br />ROWE: Well, that would be bad, too, because in our reintegration, it means get too
<br />many people coming out of prison. So that's not good, because too many people going
<br />in. With the SB 932, the Reintegration Act that is in State law now, a two-year plan
<br />before they exit, they have to all return to their original island. And we're anticipating
<br />that a lot of people going be coming out in two years, so we want to be ahead of the game
<br />and try and help them. That means they could be coming back from Arizona and
<br />Kentucky and wherever else they're at. We need to be ready, and we cannot be ready if
<br />we don't have the fundamental things in place. What will happen is they'll get out and
<br />we're not helping them to be successful. They going come out and voomp, right back in.
<br />So again, we're trying our best, and with your help we'll be able to do a lot of things on
<br />the front side so that we're not paying for a lot of these things on the back side, in terms
<br />of cost per person, $45, 000 to $65, 000 a year. I don't know about you, but it's higher
<br />than minimum wage that we're paying for these guys to be incarcerated. And that's just
<br />God's truth. If they were to come out and be productive members and pay their fair
<br />share in our community, and pay taxes, that's what we want.
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