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really, and 2 -84 is kind of a gray area that's not relevant to what the allegations are <br />made of <br />L UM: Mr. Perreira does not have any financial interest in that, in – <br />UDOVIC: Not at all— <br />L UM: - -Okay. <br />UDOVIC: Not at all— <br />L UM: - -Just to be clear. <br />UDOVIC: No, I think you can ask him, if you wish, but I don't think there's -- <br />L UM: - -No, I- <br />UDOVIC: - -I mean— <br />L UM: - -I'm just trying to see how that would apply, but I can 't find any way that it <br />applies. <br />UDOVIC: No, I didn't see any grounds for a conflict of interest provision. <br />LUM: Not his cousin or anything, right. <br />CHAIR: Okay, then why don't we, unless the Board has- <br />UDOVIC: - -I would move to strike the allegation of 2 -84, as there just doesn't seem to <br />be any merit to it -- unless you want to hear it, and make that decision at the end of the <br />hearing, if we do have a hearing. <br />CHAIR: I think that'd be the better route to take, so let's just keep it therefor now, but <br />with the understanding that we're going to be focusing on 2 -83. Before we continue on <br />and get some testimony from you and - -as the others here I just want to reiterate the fact <br />that we are here as volunteers from the community, serving for the community. We're in <br />no way attorneys, judges, a jury, and we are simply answering petitions from the public, <br />looking into ethical, or possible ethical, violations by officers, elected officials, and <br />employees of the County. We just want to do what's best for the County and what is right <br />and what is pono, and so —that being said, Mr. Udovic— Udovic, right? <br />UDOVIC: Yes. Yes, sir. <br />CHAIR: Okay. Why don't you and Mr. Perreira —and I just also want to point out that <br />the petitioner is not present today, nor will he be, so we'll start with you guys. Give us <br />the background of the relationship and your take on what happened. <br />0 <br />