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severity of the violation — certain things need to be corrected sooner. A blocked exit door <br />needs to be corrected immediately. Exit doors that aren't working, we need to correct <br />them obviously sooner. Broken exit lights, we want —a lot of times, those things, they <br />seem to be really minor, but if the lights go out, and the light doesn't work, nobody knows <br />how to get out. Everybody's habit is to go to the front door where they came in from. So <br />if everybody's going through the front door, then obviously you're going to have a <br />stampede there, and then you're going to have a blocked exit, and people get trapped. <br />LUM: Yeah, we've all read those- <br />PERREIRA: - -So we try to be fair, and we give them some time. And in other occasions, <br />we need to be more strict and get things done quicker. In this occasion, I did an <br />inspection, a formal inspection, in April 2007, I believe it is. I have all my records here. <br />But —and I actually sent this inspection, because I was having trouble with Ivan <br />responding to my request on fixing things, I sent this via certified mail, and it was dated <br />April 26, 2007. And that's really my first formal inspection of actually walking through <br />with him during the day, not when they're open, and doing an inspection of his property. <br />The other inspections were done at night, while they were open, walking through to make <br />sure the doors were open, making sure the exits aren't blocked, making sure that the <br />stairways aren't cluttered with items —which we found. I have reports of all of that. But <br />in April of 2007, I conducted this. I went back numerous times between then and did <br />another inspection, I believe in August, tried to give them some time. All this time we'd <br />been going there, trying to work with them— <br />L UM: - -You went in between- <br />PERREIRA: - -Yes, in between- <br />LUM: - -But not officially- <br />PERREIRA: -- Officially, because I'm on duty- <br />LUM: - -Okay- <br />PERREIRA: - -at night. This hasn't been addressed, this hasn't been addressed. They <br />did address some of the electrical concerns, and I noted that in one of my reports, and it <br />wasn't until October of 2007 that we gave them an official you need to fix this, or else <br />we need to shut down your establishment. And that was done after talking with my <br />battalion chief, having a meeting with the owner and the manager previous in August, <br />and working with our fire chief, because unfortunately fortunately, I'm not the one that <br />shuts down the business. We have to go through the chain of command, and we work <br />with our fire chief, and we try to work with the people first. And if the infractions are <br />large enough, we need to think of the safety of the people. <br />CHAIR: So you were having a kind of a slow response from them- <br />