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NICHOLSON: Three out of four. <br />GENTRY: Three out of four today. <br />LUM: Three out offour. I think it's two - thirds of the Board, though, yeah. So we will <br />close the hearing, and I think then we have to move into Executive Session, right? <br />SCHOEN: I think we're just closed. <br />LUM: You think we're in? Okay. We think we're there. <br />10:22 a.m.: Executive Session was entered. <br />11:06 a.m.: Regular Session was reentered. <br />6. UNFINISHED BUSINESS <br />a. Update n the status of amending the Board's Rules of Practice and <br />Procedure regarding the imposition of administrative fines pursuant to <br />Ordinance 08 -57. <br />b. Counsel's report on the status of Senate Bills 1128 and 531 and House Bill <br />626, pending before the legislature regarding administrative fines. <br />Ms. Schoen reported that the legislative bills she was tracking-died yesterday. She spoke <br />to Chuck Totto, the attorney for the Honolulu Ethics Commission, and he believed the bills died <br />because they were improperly worded. He is trying to find a way to resurrect the bills but <br />believes it will be difficult and will keep her informed. If he cannot resurrect them, he will try <br />again next year. <br />Because these bills died, it will be necessary to have a County agency created to hear <br />appeals of fines the Board may issue. Mr. Totto mentioned that his commission recently created <br />such an agency, so they will share ideas on how it should be done. One of the difficulties is <br />getting people appointed to an agency which may never get to actually hear an appeal. <br />Ms. Lum asked whether the appeals agency could be tacked onto another County agency, <br />and Ms. Schoen said she will look into that. It would make sense to place it with another agency <br />that already conducts Chapter 91, Hawaii Revised Statutes, hearings. She will discuss the <br />appropriate procedure with her office. <br />Ms. Lum said she was confused as to why they needed to wait for the State on the appeal <br />matter. Ms. Schoen explained that the bills which died in the State legislature would have <br />10 <br />