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L UM: - -Well 1 think maybe there was —I think, to be frank, I think there's too much. <br />We're not legally trained, you know. We need things you know, a citizen's a citizen. <br />COLE: I'm a citizen also, yes. <br />LUM: But you're very much more —maybe educated than I am. But if it could be maybe <br />separated out from some of the other issues that you have —that you are dealing with, and <br />if we could just act on —if we could just have a petition clear, with pertinent facts, <br />pertinent information that separates it from all of the other things that you're dealing <br />with that we cannot deal with. <br />COLE: Okay. <br />LUM: And ifyou would do that, we would then —it would be like a new petition, and we <br />could act on that. <br />COLE: 1 believe it's in the petition -1 could clarify the existing petition. However, if it is <br />the requirement of the requestor, I will.file an additional petition, a new petition, but the <br />petition will be predeceased by a petition against Lincoln Ashida. <br />LUM: Well <br />COLE: - -I'm saying that's— because this is a Board and transcripts are taken, this <br />Board has the authority of law. The documents and information I presented to you, you <br />are obligated under federal and state law to take action, which would entail basically <br />contacting the United States Justice Department, Public Integrity Section, for your <br />obligation and responsibility. <br />L UM: I don't know— <br />COLE: - -You will be surprised at exactly- <br />LUM: - -Well <br />COLE: - -the litigation that you are about to embark on yourselves on. I mean, they have <br />prosecutors that are more than willing to set aside to talk to boards like this. The Public <br />Integrity Section of the Justice— Department ofJustice, they act — they're set up to do <br />this. They prosecute judges, mayors, etcetera, and boards. For your information, you <br />just might want to contact them and see your responsibilities. <br />L UM: So, Mr. Cole, at this point, the petition never —as far as our Board is concerned, <br />this letter has been accepted and filed by us. So our Board is suggesting that if you you <br />are certainly free as a citizen of this County to file other petitions with us, and other <br />petitions with the Board of Ethics. We would just advise you that simplicity and clarity is <br />really helpful to us. So does that satisfy everyone? <br />GENTRY: 1 have one question. <br />