2009-10-14 Board of Ethics Minutes

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make a capital improvement bill, and so therefore her throwing of the pen wasn't justified. I just don't think that this petition rises to the level of the section which is quoted, quite frankly, and Ms. Naeole is not going to make any statement about this. If they're alleging any criminal conduct on behalf ofMs. Naeole, the statute of limitations hasn't run, and she's not making any statement and will not waive her Fifth Amendment privilege. Period. That's it. CHAIR: Okay. Board members, any questions for either side? Discussion? NICHOLSON: I have a question, and I think it's actually for Ms. Folena and Mr. Smith. CHAIR: Okay. NICHOLSON: Since you witnessed this, and because Mr. Smith talked about this throwing of a cow pie the pen wasn't aimed at anyone, it was just thrown at the floor? FOLENA: The pen was thrown across the room and it hit the back door, and we're stating that it violates, what is it, (a) (3) CHAIR: - -83? FOLENA: a dash 3, because that says all persons shall be treated in a courteous, fair and impartial manner, or fair and courteous and impartial manner, and were any person to be coming through that door and Mr. Smith can verify my statement here I before stated, and I second this statement, I confirm it, that I was sitting at the time and I saw the action. Mr. Smith was just outside the door. He was about to enter the door, and he saw a commotion in the room, so he waited a few seconds until the commotion quieted down, and then he entered the door. IfMr. Smith had not stopped, he would have been probably hit by that pen. I think that whether or not Mr. Udovic's point of our main point is that Mrs. Naeole had no right to throw the pen because she hadn't written a capital improvements bill that's a caveat. Our main point is that Mrs. Naeole had absolutely no right to endanger or intimidate and intimidate, because that was intimidating to the public, having a pen thrown across the room. You know, you're going to think twice before you talk against what Mrs. Naeole wants? I was intimidated by it. I was angered by it. I think there is no excuse for any council member or any member of the public, over which you have no jurisdiction , but you do have jurisdiction over council officials, to throw objects across the county council room when they don't like what's going on and they receive opposition to what they want. That's our main point. SMITH: Just further, again, the idea of bringing up the financial thing was the fact that again, there is no reason for anger there, and why would anybody a council person really does have to have a thick skin. They have to be able to take criticism and not react in a violent or negative way. And I take my hats off to anybody that can do the job of a councilman well. I know I couldn't. I'm too reactionary. That's the point. But the point is that I don't want to walk in there saying well, if I'm going to get my point across I'm going to take a bucket of `ili `ili stones and bang them off the back wall of the council chambers. I mean, that's stupid. And I don't want to see this behavior at all in council, 12