2010-07-14 Board of Ethics Minutes

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HENRICKS: I think the problem with this coming before us I'm not talking about the land problem itself I'm talking about us, here, all right. What you've done is you've come up before us and said, make a determination as to whether that land was stolen or not, because we would have to make that determination before we could make this next step, you see. The only problem is, we can't make a determination of whether the land was stolen, because what we do is we're here because the county wrote a Code of Ethics. Okay, you use the word ethics all the time in your petition and stuff, but you use the broad sense of the word ethics. You're talking about morality in general, over the whole population, over the whole world. We're talking about the Code of Ethics that was given to us, that made us exist, and it's very, very narrow. It's very, very enumerated. And it's not in there. So what I'm saying is we can't make a determination on we can't resolve land issues here. We don't even have the ability to do that. It's almost like asking us, here I sat on the bench previously it's almost like asking us here that I got a robbery case, but you took it to a small claims court. We don't have the chance to even listen to the robbery case because we don't have the ability to listen. And I think that's all we're saying. We don't make a determination over right or wrong here, or whether you're- KUAMOO: - -I got one thing to say. We came hereto bring one issue hereon the mayor. That's all we talking about. HENRICKS: All right. KUAMOO: We're not talking about lands, selling, or what you're talking about HENRICKS: - -But her petition particularly says that we'd have to find the mayor knowingly sold stolen land. And that would have to be working with the land being stolen KUAMOO: - -That is the reason why we brought this here. HENRICKS: But we can't make that determination, whether the land is stolen or not KUAMOO: - -Your attitude is full of shit HENRICKS: - -I'm not saying it is or not. I'm not even getting that far -- CHAIR: --Hold on, hold on HENRICKS: - -I'm just saying we can't make that determination. CHAIR: Okay, hold on, hold on. First of all, let me make it clear that we all on this Board are private citizens. We don't work for the mayor, we don't work for the county. We volunteer our time and services because we have aloha for our community. We're all very busy people but we want to make sure that we all live in a place that has integrity, and we hope that we are part of a county that can be looked upon as being ethical. What the vice chair stated was that we are strictly guided by the Hawai `i County Code of 14