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JOANNE ESPIN: Honestly, I don't care, closed or open, as much as I was maybe asked <br />to care about it. I just want an answer I just want an answer to the basic question <br />that's been asked. I don't really care if it's closed, for myself. <br />SCHOEN: Okay, let me just explain, so the record's clear, the difference between open <br />and closed <br />ESPIN. - -The reporter's here or not. <br />SCHOEN: Well, yeah, in a closed session the minutes are not provided to the public. <br />The decision is provided only to you, unless you would like it released to the public <br />should someone from the public ask for that decision. So it's up to you, what you want to <br />do. <br />ESPIN. That's why we're here asking, is in case somebody from the public sees me and <br />asks that question, so I guess the public has a right to know the answer. <br />SCHOEN: But if the meeting is closed, then it's closed and confidential to the public. So <br />that's the distinction. <br />ESPIN. I understand, and I still really don't care. <br />CHAIR: Okay, so you wouldn't have a problem having it open <br />ESPIN. - -No, I have no problem with that. <br />CHAIR: Okay, then we'll just do things above board and anybody have an objection to <br />having an open hearing for this, or closed? <br />ESPIN.• So tell <br />UM - -No, he's recusing himself because of his relationship with <br />ESPIN. - -No, the reporter dude. <br />CHAIR: He left. <br />L UM. He left. <br />SCHOEN: He left. <br />L UM• He was only interested in <br />ESPIN. - -Okay, so anybody's here, let's discuss <br />CHAIR: But to make it clear, the minutes will be available for public record and public <br />viewing, okay. <br />7 <br />