2010-10-13 Board of Ethics Minutes

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HEA UKULANI: - -can be subpoenaed SCHOEN: - -could be compelled, there would be cross- examination, and a more formal type of administrative hearing. And that's not what is present and on the table before this Board right now. HEA UKULANI: Thank you, counsel, you answered my question. BALSIS: I have a question for you. When you received instructions to go ahead and email the councilwoman's secretary, where you given the email address of the County of Hawai `i? ROBERT.• I didn't know her secretary's address, and she told me to call the office and get it. And I called the office and I spoke with the secretary, and she gave me her address. And I have that email. BALSIS: And did that spark anything, like why should I email you at your office address, at that time? ROBERT.• No. At that time, and I'll just be very frank with you, while I worked on a campaign for a state rep in 2008 - -it wasn't an incumbent so it didn't have an office to work in, and they weren't part of the tax paying system. I was a novice in this particular area. As things started to evolve, and the staff told me this isn't supposed to be done in the office, then I understood. There was a clear line. To answer you question, at that time, no red flags. Only after the fact there was a red flag. BALSIS: And just out of curiosity. You were the one who put together the brochure ROBERT.• - -Yes, sir -- BALSIS: --for the individual? ROBERT.• Yes, sir. And I don't work in the office. HEA UKULANI: A point of information, Mr. Chairman. I have a motion on the floor. Should we be discussing among the Board and questioning this petitioner, or we should wait for the informal hearing? CHAIR: I agree. Any other L UM: - -I have -about the informal hearing. It's my understanding we're doing the informal hearing on the campaign issues. CHAIR: We're doing an informal hearing on the petition, 2010 -09. LUM: The whole petition, okay. 10