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testimony from my personal presence at the meeting where Ms. Kupahu was directed to <br />go immediately in the next morning and order the shirts and the bags. I wasn't there to <br />see that the call was made there. I wasn't present for the discussion. I only know that <br />that direction was made. The shirts and the bags arrived, and I was thereto see hear <br />the direction, and I saw the shirts and the bags. Now there 's testimony that that all <br />happened off -site, except for the check for the shirts was picked up at the campaign at <br />the district office. That person also can't be compelled to be here by me. So I can tell <br />you I have pieces, but I can't compel anybody to come here and testify. I am bringing <br />this as a taxpayer. I am bringing this to the attention of the county, that taxpayer <br />dollars were used by Ms. Naeole 's staff for campaign matters in the district office. And <br />that to me is a clear violations of ethics between campaign and District S matters, county <br />matters. I have provided you with email to that effect. Now again, I can't compel anyone <br />to come forward. You can askMs. Naeole. She claims she doesn't tell lies. She should <br />be compelled to be able to tell what she knows. I can't compel her. I can't compel her <br />staff. <br />HEA UKULANI: Do you know that I can send emails from my personal cell phone or my <br />own computer? <br />ROBERT.• Yes, it should have been done that way. <br />HEA UKULANI: Okay. August 161h you sent an email to Gwen, if I could I'm using this <br />information here, yes? <br />ROBERT.• Um hmm. <br />HEA UKULANI: And she responded to you on August 19. Gwen, not Naeole. <br />ROBERT.• Well, I was directed to get the information from the photos from Gwen by Ms. <br />Naeole because I did not know the individuals in the photos, and she was not in the <br />office. She said contact Gwen and have her take care of it. When I had to get Gwen's <br />email to contact her, I sent her the request, which is right there in her response to me. <br />That was done by direction by Ms. Naeole. I didn't just send it to her to do that. <br />HEAUKULANI: Well why didn't you raise the issue on August 16 that I shouldn't send <br />this to you, because this is a county email? <br />ROBERT.• I'm sorry? <br />HEAUKULANI: Why didn't you notify Gwen that shouldn't send this email to you, <br />because this is a county <br />ROBERT.• - -Why didn't I do that? <br />CHAIR: Well, hold on. Now just for the benefit of the doubt, I think Ms. Roberts is a <br />private citizen and the knowledge of requirements surrounding campaign and use of <br />county funds and things like that all county employees are reminded every year. So I <br />think it's unrealistic to ask Ms. Roberts to know what the <br />