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CHAIR: Okay, so we have a motion and a second to dismiss this petition. All in favor, <br />say aye. <br />HEA UKULANI: Aye. <br />HENRICKS: Aye. <br />CHAIR: And I'll oppose. <br />BALSIS: I'll abstain. <br />CHAIR: Abstain? I'll oppose. <br />SCHOEN: Okay, so the motion fails. <br />CHAIR: Okay. <br />SCHOEN: So you guys gotta decide what you want to do next, if anything. According to <br />your rules let me just reiterate what your rules are. Whenever you have a petition <br />before you, pursuant to Rule 4 you - -this Board- -may refuse to entertain a request for <br />good cause, it can dismiss for the matter being speculative, frivolous, or you can vote to <br />hold an informal hearing. If the motion to dismiss fails, you folks have to decide how you <br />want to proceed. <br />CHAIR: Okay. So we have two votes to dismiss, one opposed, and one abstained. <br />BALSIS: If I recuse myself, that only leaves three. <br />CHAIR: Right. <br />BALSIS: I need to recuse myself. <br />CHAIR: Okay. <br />HEA UKULANI: Why? <br />BALSIS: Why -- because I know Dominic and I've dealt with him when the Malama <br />Market was opening in Ocean View. And I'm familiar with working with people at Food <br />Pantry and Foodland. <br />HEA UKULANI: Okay. <br />BALSIS: That's why I didn't say anything. <br />SCHOEN: So Chair Balsis I'm sorry, not Chair. Mr. Balsis, are you saying that you <br />don't believe that you you need to disqualify yourself and you don't believe you can be <br />fair and impartial in this matter? <br />15 <br />