2011-01-12 Board of Ethics Minutes

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HENRICKS: Okay, the second thing I want to ask you, and I'm not going to ask you anything more than that, because I think wed have a video to clarify it for us is was this a give - and -take situation? LEE: In what, what HENRICKS: - -You know, like give - and -take, if you 're going after her and she's coming back after you, this LEE: --Not, not at all. I mean, not at all. And that's why I feel like HENRICKS: -- You're completely innocent, you can completely innocent victim? LEE: I can completely HENRICKS: - -You didn't goad her or bait her in any way? LEE: Not at all. HENRICKS: Okay. LEE: In fact, in the previous hearing, and that's when - -I think when she had the previous hearings, people were coming after her and she targeted me as the representative of a company. HENRICKS: Well, the reason I ask that is because a lot of times when you go and look at public hearings, some people come forward in testimony and they'll actually try to get a reaction out of a council member. You know, they'll actually bait them to make a reaction. And so therefore I'm just saying that wed look for that, too, you understand. LEE: Well, you know, the video's very clear. The context of what happened was I mean, even after I've been through public hearings on Oahu, Maui, Kauai, Kona, and what I went through there, it was bad. I mean HENRICKS: So to find out what happened, we just really have to look at the video LEE: --Right, yeah -- CHAIR: - -Yeah, and just as a reminder to the Board and everyone here, we are just deciding whether to move forward on this. And speaking of subjectivity, this particular section of the Ethics Code is very subjective, but your claims that you felt it was in violation I feel is enough for us to take it further and to look into it further. LEE: Well, I appreciate it. I mean, just the context of the courteous and fair treatment, I didn't feel that was that happened. 11