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two weeks we are teaching a field course, we would be located there. There is a six-week summer <br />session, we would be located there. When a group comes over from Cornell to do two weeks of a <br />field class, right now they are staying in a hotel or at Hawai‘i Preparatory Academy, they would <br />hopefully stay there and do their work out of there. Whether they require boats or not would be <br />determined by the use pattern. But to say that this is, you know, a 24/7 boat based running facility <br />is not accurate. So that’s why we came up with this two on average; depending on a class, <br />depending on when it’s taught and what vessel support it needs, we might need two per day on <br />average, heavier on the weekends. Does that make sense? <br /> <br />BOWMAN: I just maybe have one more question. Sorry, Commissioners. So the residents <br />whoever would be residing there, the students, they would be directly related to projects within the <br />Kalākaua Marine -? <br /> <br />TURNER: Correct. So they would be either enrolled in UH Hilo classes, they would be part of <br />visiting scientists groups that would come over for a week or two to do, to teach their own classes <br />or to do research based in UH, or they could even be, if we are talking about the auditorium, a <br />community-base group that’s renting our facility for a day or a couple of days or something like <br />that. So we are not talking about, you know, moving a spring semester course to this facility for the <br />entire semester; it’s going to be sporadic use based upon the -. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Directly related to the Marine -. <br /> <br />TURNER: Absolutely. Correct. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Okay. Any other questions, Commissioners? If none, you may be seated. And I will, <br />we do have some testifiers. So if I could bring up all three testifiers and swear you in, and then <br />we’ll go one by one. First of all, Peter Hackstedde, Rob Shallenberger and Jason Turner. <br /> <br />TURNER: I think, I gave mine earlier, so can I -. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Oh, okay, yes, thank you. So if you would raise your right hand, please. Do you <br />swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Leeward Hawai‘i Planning <br />Commission? <br /> <br />TESTIFIERS: I do. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Thank you. Would you like to go first? <br /> <br />SHALLENBERGER: Why don’t we offer Peter first -. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Okay, Peter first. This is Peter Hackstedde? <br /> <br />HACKSTEDDE: Yes, I’m Peter Hackstedde. I’m president of the Puakō Community Association, <br />and I just wanted to comment on the SMA permit. We brought up five issues that we had with this <br />program – basically the water, the sewage, the fire and the boat ramp. And they have answered all <br />those things. We are excited about this project. We think this would be a beautiful add to the <br />Puakō Community Association. They have all these kids down here. They are down here all the <br />summer. Every summer they come in there; they do all this great research on the reefs. And it’s <br />just to our benefit, so we can see what things are going on with the reef. And it’s just an added <br />6 <br />EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />