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MR. KANUHA: You would want to include that neighborhood. MR. MIDDLESWORTH : The problem that I have had trying to draw over on the Kona side is that the way the census blocks are on that side, every time you make a change down on this end, then you go up to the top and you have got to try and figure out how to make a change up there, and they donÓt work either. Somebody is going to be unhappy over there just as people are going to be unhappy in the Hilo side because the concentrations of populations are such that it gets real hard to move those lines. MR. KANUHA : Yeah, just look at how weird these census blocks are; itÓs crazy. CHR. SIRACUSA : We are all running into those problems; either areas that donÓt have enough population, or areas that have too much. MR. MELROSE: Can I suggest that we just keep moving on? CHR. SIRACUSA : LetÓs move on to Plan 7. MR. MELROSE : I think that was a good effort, but itÓs got some issues. MR. MELROSE : One of the things I noticed about this one was that the two Hilo districts are both high by population, which might actually adjust to be right once we fix those numbers out of the University. So it looks like there are about 900 additional votes in those two districts that will get removed when you pull out the 1,000 or so University votes. So the are a little high and the faster growing districts of lower Puna, the two Puna districts, are low to accommodate a growth potential. Districts 4 and 5 are both low. There are two Hilo districts, two Puna districts, two Kona districts; and the two Puna districts are a little low and the Hilo districts are a little high based on the fact that they will loose some votes from the University. Districts 7 and 8 are also faster growing districts, and are low to accommodate that growth. So itÓs built into the piece, and I thought it was interesting. MR. KANUHA: I did too. IÓve noticed in few of these plans submitted, they took that into account and I liked it. CHR. SIRACUSA: I would like to see the details of that Volcano area. MR. MIDDLESWORTH: This one does even more splitting of Paradise Park. MR. MELROSE: Can you pull it out a little bit? If you look at the end of District 4, it looks like it runs about the Puna boundary. So that is a discretely Puna vote. It goes along the boundary of Puna. This one doesnÓt share Puna and Hilo; but it does share District 6 into Puna. CHR. SIRACUSA: Yes, considerably into Puna. The way Highway 11 goes, there subdivisions on both sides of it and they all use Highway 11; that is their major corridor to go to Keaau or Hilo. All of those subdivisions are in KaÒ, they are really Puna, and yet they are put into Ka; that bothers me. Plus Volcano is in KaÒ according to this one. 21