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<br />CHR. SIRACUSA <br />: These guys want a lot of money. And itÓs only 20 hours, and itÓs close to <br />$6,000 that they want. <br /> <br />MR. MIDDLESWORTH: They are getting $250 an hour and that is not unreasonable for <br />consulting services. <br /> <br />MR. KANUHA <br />: We need a motion to open discussion. <br /> <br />CHR. SIRACUSA: Yes, we need a motion. <br /> <br />Mr. Kanuha moved to close file on COMM.23 <br />regarding quote for Esri consulting services. <br />Seconded by Mr. Middlesworth. <br />CHR. SIRACUSA <br />: I couldnÓt believe how little they wanted to give for how much, and my <br />personal opinionis that they know they have us between a rock and a hard place. <br />that if we say, ÐnoÑ we are stuck and we canÓt do our job; so what are our options? <br /> <br />MR. MIDDLESWORTH <br />: IÓll be a little more rational now. IÓve been in the consulting business <br />for almost 20 years; Jeff does consulting work; $250 for consulting work by a company the size <br />of Esri is not outrageous because you take off their overhead, youÓve got him being paid, thatÓs <br />not an outrageous amount of money for consulting these days. I do the books for my wifeÓs <br />business. They are in a business where they charge by the hour for various things. IÓve got to <br />tell you that this is not terribly out of line with what they get, for what lawyers get, what <br />accountants get. <br /> <br />MS. POINDEXTER: I do have a comment though. With that being said, I do agree that $250 <br />may be reasonable for what consultants and attorneys get, but depending on what type of <br />consulting or what type of services we will get from them. Are they outsourcing, or are we <br />going to be calling in to somebody who is answering from I donÓt know where? We are not <br />getting a Ðhands onÑ type of consulting with somebody coming here. From what I read, itÓs a <br />call in; correct? So, to me, paying this kind of money is a lot of money if we donÓt know what <br />kind of services are we receiving and from whom. <br /> <br />MR. MELROSE: When you asked Royce at Esri, what services you thought you might want <br />that prompted this? What were we asking for, so I understand what he was trying to aim at when <br />he prepared his proposal? <br /> <br />MS. NAKAMOTO: I did not ask Royce to provide us with a quote. Just based on Royce being <br />here and hearing the discussions that went on while he was here and hearing that people wanted <br />to get support, he went ahead on his own and provided this. He mailed us this quote. <br /> <br />MR. MELROSE: Thank you. So, what he was really saying--and there was a lot of participation <br />at that point wondering how they would go to get a support; if there was an online way to get <br />support, if there was an online way to get an answer, if you have a problem where do you go to <br />13 <br /> <br />