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CHR. SIRACUSA : Mike. : It seems to me that based on the growth over the past 10 years, we MR. MIDDLESWORTH can pretty much project forward. Jeff, of course, has considerable experience in the field, and he can help us make a decision. But we do have the 10% deviation business to work with, so that once we decide which districts are the ones that are slow growing, we can make them bigger by whatever percentage we decide and make the faster growing districts smaller. ItÓs not brain surgery, it is pretty simple math; to say one district is going to be 4% big and this district is going to be 4% low. CHR. SIRACUSA : Jeff. : I think itÓs possible to do that. The challenge is going to be, by the nature of MR. MELROSE the Ordinance we were handed by the Council, variation is what matters as far as that Ordinance is concerned with kind of in the bottom line. I think we need to take a logical progression of actions, so that we are not going to get subject to that nit pick when we are trying to keep communities together and accommodate growth. As we have seen from some of the plans that have already been submitted, itÓs not hard to get under a 1% variation in a plan, but that does not generate the best plan. I think we need to consider that Puna needs to be quantified lower than the average, and maybe the Kona and North Kohala seats, depending on where those boundaries fall, should be quantified lower, and that the Hilo seat, at lea University votes in it, needs to be higher. But those two areas particularly should be seen as reduced. Setting a number is not the intelligent way to deal wi accommodate it in the context of census blocks. MR. MIDDLESWORTH: I go back to what I have said several times. There are confl provisions in the Ordinance. One says that we have to take into account growth, the other one says that we have to have the numbers match. I have asked Mike about it, and we have discussed this before. There is no penalty clause in the Ordinance. ItÓs up to us to decide and have good, sound reasons for what we do. We can go one way, or the other; or we can try to accommodate both. But, whatever we do, there is nothing in the Ordinance that penalizes us for what we do. Somebody could take us to court; they took the last Redistricting Commission to court. ThatÓs the chance we are going to run no matter what we do. So, I think we just need to plow ahead, and do the best we can, in our view, and see what happens. CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you. Any more comments? In that case, letÓs vote. The motion to file COMM. 33, regarding Future Growth Projections was carried by the following vote: Ayes: Commissioners Carvalho, KahawaiolaÒa, Kanuha, Melrose, Middlesworth, Poindexter, Ugalde, and Chair Siracusa. Noes: None. Absent: Commissioner Kahui. 6