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MR. MIDDLESWORTH: Let me interject here. I drew this one to include everything below the Wailuku River in District 3. If you come down, you are going to have to come down to Waianuenue and the Saddle Road. MS. POINDEXTER: And I would prefer seeing that, versus pulling Waimea on that side. MR. MELROSE: I have a hard time with the notion that somehow -- -We've taken about 2,000 votes out of - -this was District 2 before - -and added it already to District 1. We have taken lands from all the way out of Papaikou and included it into District 1. That seems reasonable to me, although even when they did the Community Development Plan (CDP) they didn't include the whole district to the river. They went out as far as Papaikou and assumed that there was more community connectivity to that portion of town, to the north portion of the river. So if you don't hold the Wailuku River; you are doing so to keep the Waimea voters who send their kids to Honoka` a from being part of that district. MS. POINDEXTER: And I still could argue the point that the Waimea people access everything in Kamuela versus Honoka` a. Just because of the school districts - - -I could argue that Waikoloa goes to Kealakehe, so we should move Waikoloa into Kona. So we're talking school districts there, but when you look at the communities of interest, the CDP planning, you have all of the Lakeland area and those people because they utilize parks and activities there in Waimea itself; I just thought keeping them together because of the Community Development Planning and communities of interest. MR. CARVALHO: If I can add to what Valerie is saying; I met with some of the Waimea people, a couple of guys from Waikoloa and Puako. I think there is the services problem too, between the two districts. It's how well you are going to be represented in your district. The people who live in Waimea, out in Lakeland, they feel they don't get any representation from the Hamakua, District 1. Their perception is that the representative thinks they are in Waimea; because they always were in Waimea until 10 years ago. They still have their post office and services come from Waimea, not from Hamakua. Then you have Puako, which has changed radically in the 10 to 15 years, where you don't have as many local people down there any more. So, they look like they are more with the hotels, the Mauna Lani, which almost adjoins Puako. Then you go to Waikoloa, and Waikoloa is how old, thirty years, like a lot of the places in Kona just came about. But Waikoloa, they think you can split Waikoloa; part into Kona and part into District 9, using Paniolo Avenue. I have to do a little bit more research, but I'm getting a much better feel now. If I'm going to be splitting Waikoloa, I know where to split it. Puako, I would like to see still in Kohala, but if it's not possible, they look like they should belong with the hotels. Waimea; definitely bring back the people from Lakeland. It's easier for me to work with Plan _10. I did some modifications already. I didn't bring it with me, but I did some modifications. I know that side pretty well; between 8, 9, and 1, but when you move down to Volcano and Puna side, I depend on you guys; I don't know anything about it. CHR. SIRACUSA: And vice versa. 24