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way over and I don't think that it is tweakable. I think it is too much to be tweakable, and so I would recommend that we do not keep this one. MS. POINDEXTER: Is that a motion? Siracusa moved to reject Plan_ 19, and not to have Plan _19 available for the public hearings based on the deviations. Seconded by Mr. Kahui and carried by the following vote: Ayes: Commissioners Kahawaiola`a, Kahui, Kanuha, Melrose, Middlesworth, Poindexter, Ugalde and Chair Siracusa. Noes: None. Absent: Commissioner Carvalho. Discussion on Plan-23 for Public Hearings MR. KANUHA: Are there any comments on Plan-23? Is this an acceptable plan to take out? MR. MELROSE: There are two areas of deviation and adjoining pieces; one high by five and one low by five. The plan would have more credibility going out if those two deviations were adjusted. All other things I think are fine, but if we just went in between those and moved a couple of blocks so that the two Kona districts had reasonable numbers, then it would make sense that this goes on. Do you Kona guys think that would be a useful exercise to move a couple of blocks to make those deviations right? MR. MIDDLESWORTH: The deviations are small enough that it is something we can adjust later, we are just taking these out for people to look at. Mr. Kahui moved to keep Plan _23, and to have Plan _23 available for public hearings, Seconded by Ms. Poindexter and carried by the following vote: Ayes: Commissioners Kahawaiola`a, Kahui, Kanuha, Melrose, Middlesworth, Poindexter, Ugalde and Chair Siracusa. Noes: None. Absent: Commissioner Carvalho. MR. MELROSE: Just as a quick comment, I think between Mike and Rene, when you work on crafting your introductory comments; we rejected a fair number of plans that had deviations and if we are going to present plans that have deviations you need to figure out how to say that so that it is clear that these are for discussion purposes. We don't want to cross ourselves on this issue. 39