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CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you, Scott. Thank you for all your hard work. MR. MELROSE: Thank you, Scott. You can answer this one off the top of your head. I just want to make sure, because I haven't driven the Emergency Road, is that emergency road open all the time? I remember there was some pilikia at one point about whether it would be or wouldn't be, and how often it is. Is it open at all points? It's not like the one in Waikoloa that is only an emergency road out if there is a fire and somebody has to unlock it. MR. STODDARD: No, it is open all the time. The only issue with it is it is a private road. Likewise, a lot of the access roads that qualify in the lower district are private as well. Most of the roads in Puna are private. MR. MELROSE: Yes, I understand, thank you; that was appreciated. CHR. SIRACUSA: I just received a note that the name of that group is the Coalition of Puna Subdivision Associations, COPSA, and I have contact information here. Did you want that, Jeff, to follow up on? It was your question. Okay, moving right along, we have Patrice McDonald. PATRICE McDONALD (At this time Patrice McDonald came forward to address members of the Commission.) MS. McDONALD: I am representing myself. I am also a board member and Vice President of Hawaiian Acres Corporation. All subdivisions in Puna are 501(c)4's, they are all incorporated, they all own their charters. Internal roads are not relevant to me in redistricting. HPP is the most crowded subdivision, but the largest land owner in Puna is actually Hawaiian Acres. I have had the pleasure of Karen emailing me all the maps, as we still do not have any of the redistricting software available to us. We don't have any wifi up there. So Puna is still, on all the maps, in four districts. Puna goes from Kea` au to Steinbeck Highway and to Volcano. We feel that putting the district into Hilo would really fracture our unity and divide our upper Puna subdivisions. Hawaiian Acres presently is surrounded by three different districts. We would like to actually go into a two district Puna area of which I have seen no maps that would incorporate two districts. There are still four districts for upper Puna. Thank you. CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you for your testimony. The next testifier is Alita Warner. ALITA WARNER (At this time Alita Warner came forward to address members of the Commission.) MS. WARNER: Good afternoon. I wanted to thank all of you for all your time and effort through all those meetings and crunching all those numbers and looking at all the data. I am a resident of Hawaiian Acres, I only come here representing myself. I would like to see the boundaries of Puna be held contiguous within the redistricting. I feel the concerns of this community are very different than the developed concerns of Kea` au comparatively to Hawaiian Acres and Hilo compared to the rest of Puna. For that reason, the best plan that I have seen is the revised Plan_40 that I support. So, I just want to speak in support of that. Thank you very much. 9