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MR. KAHUL I do want to state for the record that Margaret has been engaged in this process from the beginning. Plan 40 did arise out of Margaret's efforts. So, personally, I want to commend her because of all the testimony and all the work that has been done, it's really apparent that she has taken a lot to draft a plan that meets our objectives. And if our objective is to keep communities together, and if our objective is to make sure that one person, one vote, then I think we would have accomplished our task. Having said that, and looking at the record today, by the way, I have been keeping a matrix of testifiers and frankly, I'm sure why we are even having more testimony. It's apparent that Plan_A doesn't work, and at some point I'd like to motion that we eliminate Plan _A so we can move on Plan_40 and the new revision for that plan, so we can get on with our task. Mahalo. CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you. I would like to point out that we are still in public testimony, so we can't do motions right now. We have to wait until we get to that point in the agenda. MR. CARVALHO: I would just like to commend Margaret for her hard and diligent work throughout the whole island. Thank you, Margaret. MS. POINDEXTER: Just one more thing. Margaret, I understand that, but it did take a lot of the people from Puna and all the different areas that gave you that opportunity to create what you created. So it's not just a Margaret Wille thing, it is our entire island. And a lot of our people have contributed a lot to that map, so it made it easy for Margaret Wille to come up with what you came up with. Am I right? MS. WILLE: I worked on what Rene said for maybe eight hours. MS. POINDEXTER: So, I want to make sure the public knows that this came from all of you, and Margaret Wille, thank you for your time for bringing it all together for us to help all of the communities. MR. MELROSE: I understand that comment and I appreciate the time you put into it. I want to say that you have also been the most divisive person in the conversations thus far. You have chosen to make it political, to claim and assert in you blog and in writings and in emails that we are, in fact somehow disingenuous. I want to say that that is inappropriate, and it actually poisons your well in my view. Your way of doing it is unnecessary, and we are continuing to work on this process. We didn't get to the addition at the last meeting, so that is why we don't have a Plan _B and we will get on to it today. But the amount of poison in the well that came out of your communications, and your allegations to us personally, is absolutely inappropriate and I think personally, just confusing me and my brother and trying to create perceptions of us as somehow inappropriate people for doing this, is not a way to get the best for the community. So I hope in future conversations, you can avoid that political allegation well before they are necessary, and can move forward in a spirit of cooperation rather than separation. CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you, Jeff. I would now like to call up the next testifier in Hilo. 27