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plans have Puna at a high end of that trying to get as many people into the district as possible. What is your opinion on being dense or being under? MR. OLSON: If it creates three districts, yes. MR. MELROSE: You won't get three districts; there isn't enough population for it. In the two districts that you will get, do you suggest that we be at the low end so that you can grow into your representation, or do you think that we should, as some plans suggest, be at the high end? MR. OLSON: I don't agree with your first premise there. I am not even putting that on the table because equal representation is an issue of being a property owner in a district, and your right to be equitably represented, is an issue that can be looked at legally. And some numbers, over 10,000 or 12,000 of those lots are already in the hands of people who do reside in the state, although not in the Puna district at the moment. So, they do have some rights, so I don't go with your premise in the beginning. CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you, Jon. Earlier we called up Victor Morris, and he wasn't in the room. So I am calling him back again. He is the Treasurer of the Waikoloa Village Association. VICTOR MORRIS (At this time Victor Morris came forward to address members of the Commission.) MR. MORRIS: Thank you, Commissioners, for listening to my testimony. I very much support Plan 40, or a slight revision of it as necessary. I feel very strongly that we want to keep our community together, and in fact this goes back into history. If you think of the way the Hawaiians put together the islands when they first settled it, their concept was mountain to sea, and the current Council District 9 very much represents that with Waikoloa, Waimea, Puako, and Kawaihae. I think that will serve us very well going forward, and that is what I hope you will consider doing as you work out the final plan. Thank you. CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you very much. Let's take a testifier in Waimea. MR. HIRT: Good afternoon, we are actually down to our last testifier. We had two testifiers sign up to speak in support of Plan 40, but they had to leave. So, our last testifier if Terri Markovich, representing herself, to speak in support of Plan_40. TERRI MARKOVICH (At this time Terri Markovich came forward via videoconference from Waimea to address members of the Commission.) MS. MARKOVICH: Thank you, Commissioners. Thank you for your service, it is very important. I, too, serve on a Commission for the Public Access and Open Space and Natural Resource Preservation Commission. It is a big job, and I represent District 1, and I 29