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That is one of the things that we have to try to avoid. It's like Rene has pointed out, no matter what the committee does, somebody is not going to be happy. The other thing that Rene has made very clear is that the two plans that area currently on the table are a work in progress. You folks have not made a final decision yet. I think you will recall, that when we talked, from day one, at least with regard to Puna, that Puna consists of three communities; Pahoa, Kea`au, and Volcano. I will just mention the fact that Dan Taylor, who is the President of the Action Committee, happens to be a Volcano resident. So I don't want people to think that Volcano could just as easily go into another district. Anyways, thank you for all your good work, and hopefully, we continue to work together. CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you. That is the Puna Community Development Plan Action Committee, for those of you who don't know what he was referring to. But it has another Volcano member on it also, and that is Tim Tunneison. Okay, we now have Lucille Chung, the Hilo Community Council. LUCILLE CHUNG (At this time Lucille Chung came forward to address members of the Commission.) MS. CHUNG: Aloha, I know I know most of you up here and you know me. I chased out to Papa`aloa to testify; don't divide North Hilo, because there was a gulch somewhere that you looked at in your offices. By the same token, don't divide Hamakua, because we are a community. I am a born and raised person from Laupahoehoe, and I can't see Hamakua going to Hilo; and I told you folks that in Papa`aloa. We could have been, maybe as a whole unit, moved up to Waimea, but to divide us, it's not pono. Thank you, Val, for stopping to talk to me. I will work with you; I have always worked with our government to make things pono. So, I am available any time. Thank you. CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you, Lucille; maybe next time around you will sign up to serve on the Commission. MS. CHUNG: I'm not crazy. MS. POINDEXTER: Thank you for all your work. CHR. SIRACUSA: Our next testifier is Carol Porter. CAROL PORTER (At this time Carol Porter came forward to address members of the Commission.) MS. PORTER: Good afternoon, thanks for giving me the opportunity to testify. I am Carol Porter, I live in Kawaihae. I have been on the Big Island since 1999. I think that I respect the work of the Commission, and that you are trying to do what you are Chartered to do, which is challenging; and to be fair to all of the people of the island of Hawaii. I think, in fairness to all the people of the Big Island, it is essential that you preserve the integrity of the traditional districts. I say absolutely no to Plan _A and yes to Plan 40, perhaps modified. Please preserve communities of interest. Keep Hamakua together; 33