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ROBERT GREEN (At this time Robert Green came forward to address members of the Commission.) MR. GREEN: Good morning. What I want to do is first thing is give you some perspective. My grandfather was born in Laupahoehoe in 1890, that is in Hamakua. My mother was born in Waimea in 1907, in Kohala. I was born in Hilo in 1935 and that puts me in the Hilo district. I was raised in Pahoa, and in Mountain View; that puts me in the Puna district. So, my personal idea has been all over the island and I would like to speak to all over the island. Now, you all know that in the Saddle between Hualalai and Mauna Loa is a place called Ahu O Umi. In Ahu O Umi there are six piles of rock; each rock representing a homogeneous district or moku in Hawaiian. Those rocks are supposed to be the census at that time, of Umi. Now, 500 years later, because of the census, we are dividing Hawaii again. Now, I testified in Waimea on those plans; and now, as I see it, we have two plans to work with. As I see Plan 40, I see that plan as nearly meeting the needs of the districts and homogeneality of Hawaii as represented 500 years ago as it is today. We are all different. Now, I think we really need to work on Puna, in Plan _40. I think criteria eleven should be re- looked at when you decide to divide Puna. I look back at Plan A, and I really don't see anything good about Plan _A. First of all, it takes the heart of Hamakua and moves it into Kohala. It takes the heart of Kohala and moves it into Kona. I think that is something we should not be doing. But, since my time has run out, the last thing I can say to you is please, please do not cut down the coconut trees of Hamakua. Thank you. CHR. SIRACUSA: Our next testifier in Hilo is Nonaina Makahi. NONAINA MAKAHI (At this time Nonaina Makahi came forward to address members of the Commission.) MR. MAKAHL My name is Nonaina Makahi. I am for Plan _40 for Waikoloa. I have been in Waikoloa for almost 35 years, and I know that Waikoloa has that potential for improvement, and it has been improving every year. I see the Council; I don't see any Hawaiians up there. I know the Hawaiians will rise up, and I say I support Plan_40. Thank you. CHR. SIRACUSA: Let's go back to Waimea. MR. HIRT: Good morning, our next testifier is Scott Carter to speak in support of Plan_40. SCOTT CARTER (At this time Scott Carter came forward via videoconference from Waimea to address members of the Commission.) MR. CARTER: Good afternoon. My name is Scott Carter, and I reviewed Plan _A. I think it is not a very beneficial plan for the community or the island because it does break up too 9