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take Puako; this is the trade off for Pa`ahau now. You can take Waiki`i, but then you still have to <br />get Puako or Waimea. <br />MR. KANUHA: We have heard testimony from Puako that they would like to be contained with <br />District 9. <br />MR. MELROSE: It's Val's call; and it's a tough one. <br />MS. POINDEXTER: But Pat, I would love to hear your opinion, because Puako wants to stay in <br />Waimea, but, to me Puako, my opinion, is more resort people there than locals. You can count on <br />maybe one hand how many local people own property down there, because of taxes. What is <br />your opinion on that? <br />MR. CARVALHO: I think the census had like 780 or 720 people there, and they were on the <br />upper scale. Talking to the Pastor and a few other people, the demographics have really changed <br />there because the local people couldn't afford their taxes. So you are right, Puako is <br />demographically now, although historically with Kohala and Waimea, demographically they are <br />more like the hotels. <br />MS. POINDEXTER: I agree. <br />MR. KAHAWAIOLA`A: I also heard, I think at the Waimea meeting, is where they made their <br />plea. Mr. Robertson made the plea that they should and want to because of years prior, have been <br />part of Waimea. As we go around, we are looking at people who came forward, grassroots, and <br />made that plea to stay there. I think that, for lack of any other observation that I have made, that <br />Waimea was the only place that I saw Hawaiians making input. And I take that pretty seriously. <br />CHR. SIRACUSA: District 9 can shed some bodies into District 1. <br />MS. POINDEXTER: I think what Pat was saying is that what he got to hear from the public <br />hearings is that they want to remain in Waimea. But I was wondering, is it in Waimea, or the <br />district itself that included Waikoloa, that is why, they had something in common there. It was <br />specifically Waimea that the testimony was? <br />MR. CARVALHO: It is more being in the corridor with Waimea and Kohala. They say Kohala <br />and Kawaihae, that area. And we not only heard it at our hearings, I am also Chair of the Kohala <br />Action Committee, and heard it there too, because I was making reports on the redistricting. <br />MS. POINDEXTER: Then I would say, if at that point, then we should just take Pa`auhau out. <br />Because when we put Pa` auhau in, we did with the numbers and put Pa` auhau in, right across the <br />highway, there are homes we are not including up there. So they consider themselves to be <br />Pa` auhau; but Pa` auhau Mauka. If we are going to draw the line, then take Pa` auhau back into <br />Hamakua. <br />MR. KAHUI: I remember at the Kona hearing, much like what happened in Waimea, although I <br />was not there; but in the Kona hearing there were a constituency out here wanting Puako and <br />33 <br />