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CHR. SIRACUSA: As long as he doesn't call me Tutu. MS. POINDEXTER: But anyway, I'd like to see like I said before, the communities that have the commonalities together which is for district 1 to include more of Waimea versus going into Hilo, crossing the Wailuku River. So, because of the commonalities in those communities, like I stated before earlier. So I don't think I have to go into that again, but that is where I stand and I think it also not forces but encourages the Waimea, which will have a bigger voice now to say hey, our representative in District 1 needs to work hard with our District 9 representative. People have the power. So we're giving Waimea actually more power into the District 1, and we're forcing people to work together and I think we have to foster that and encourage people to speak out about that because the people they do have the power. Anyway that's where I stand and from what I said earlier. MR. MIDDLESWORTH: I have two things that I'm concerned about. One is Patrick's concerns about the Hawaiians and the Hawaiian Homelands and that end of it which leads me to say that I am not at all fond of the Districts 2 and 3 on the Plan _B because that combines the vastly rural area where I am and some other people with the downtown and I don't think it's a good way to draw the districts. That's my bottom line. CHR. SIRACUSA: Your bottom line is to keep the rural and the urban segments separate. Is that correct? MR. MIDDLESWORTH: The way it is now. CHR. SIRACUSA: Okay. Dru. MR. KANUHA: The way it's turning out you can see that there is a push for a Kailua Village district itself being in that small area there are 20,000 people. To keep the Village itself intact, based upon the Kailua Village Business Improvement District. I've said this many times, the lines on many of these maps are drawn towards that specific purpose so to keep it that way would be my recommendation. Thank you. CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you. Jeff Is Bo back? Good. What we're doing Bo is we're going around and each of us is sharing with the others what our bottom line is. You know, where are we going to hold the line when it comes to maybe making sacrifices or what else. So what would it be for you? MR. KAHUL Okay. I appreciate the courtesy. I'm with Dru. I think when you look at that Kailua Village and whether it goes into District 8 or District 7, it's - - -We got two representatives in Kona, that would share that same kind of constituency. So, you know for me I think if we can work the numbers out, great. Secondly, I think when you look at the Kona CDP what's happened with our district, particularly with Kealakehe and Kealaolu and the urbanization of those two ahupua`a, we again look to see to ensure that those urban areas stick together because then they have a common interest as they grow. And then of course, as I've always mentioned, I think out of respect for those northern boundaries, 36