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I am talking about Plan _B alternate 2. My concern there is two fold. One is with Hamakua; I am a traditionalist and an historian, and I feel that Hamakua needs to expand more to the mountains where you have moved it to the sea. The second thing is with Puna; the young lady mentioned the fact that Kea`au is the center of Puna. Well, I grew up in Pahoa, in Mountain View, and I think she is absolutely right. I think Pahoa is the center of one portion of Puna, and Kea`au is another. When you separate Kea` au out, I think you are dividing the common interests of a homogeneous grouping. I would like to thank you for your wonderful work, I think the plans get better and better and better, and I am hoping to see you again at the final meeting in which time we can see where we are going. Thank you very much. CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you. Let's go back to Hilo and call Rich Warshauer. RICK WARSHAUER (At this time Rick Warshauer came forward via to address members of the Commission.) MR. WARSHAUER: Good morning, I really appreciate the job you folks have been doing. I am really glad to see so much community input, albeit in a lot of different forms. I really feel that no matter what the outcome, this is going to be the best ever redistricting, because there has been a lot more consideration of different neighborhoods, different districts' concerns. I realize that you have had to listen to a lot of hysterical blogs, and weekly whims, and people who come misinformed, and there is so much confusion in the different plans, I feel misinformed and not up to date, currently. So, the one thing I am going to address is the position of Volcano versus Kea`au in the plan. The district configuration for Puna that showed Volcano earlier, had a peripheral Puna and a more central core Puna as two separate districts, and Volcano fit quite nicely in that peripheral Puna. Kea`au seems, these days, to be a suburb of Hilo, and I really don't feel that bad about it being included in Hilo because I know the numbers have to balance. But everybody feels that about their own area, so whatever happens, happens. I do want to echo the thoughts of the first speaker; I thought he did a good job, just as you folks are doing. So thank you very much. CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you very much Rick. We now go to Pahoa. MS. LIVELY: Good morning, thank you Chair. We have Toby Hazel. She is going to be commenting on redistricting plans. TOBY HAZEL (At this time Toby Hazel came forward via videoconference from Pahoa to address members of the Commission.) MS. HAZEL: Hi, good morning Chair, and all the other people who have worked so hard on this. I'm not sure I understand all the details, but yes, indeed, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. All these parts, I'm quoting now from the previous speaker, peripheral Puna. Okay, we really do need to keep our communities intact, and I hate to lose either Volcano or Kea`au. Of course, I go through Kea`au more often, and stop there 5