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and stuff And I believe we did our job. Now, the papers can say one thing; they can say anything they like. People are going to believe that, they can believe that; or people can come to the meetings and begin to understand that there was nothing improper done by this Commission. Nothing that we have done in our conduct, in any way fashion or form, that would have misled this process or misled the public. So it is interesting now we are at this special session to defend ourselves what would be from this media concern that we have. And certainly the concerns that now has generated throughout the community. So it is my testimony to you, my stated facts, that we did our job. And honestly, while accepting these minutes, you ought to look at the record. The record is there. So, with that said, I want to thank you all for being here so that you can go home, tell your friends and family that there was nothing improper about what we did. I stand here clearly supporting all my colleagues in our decisions that we have made through this whole process. And thank you for your support. CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you, Bo. Linda, did you want to say something? MS. UGALDE: I support all the Commissioners that have spoken so far. I want to also say that I don't even know where my Councilperson lives. I thought she lived in HOVE, and I understand she lives in Na`alehu; I'm still not sure, and nor do care. I made it a point when I was appointed to this Commission to not look up anybody's address. I still don't know where Fresh lives. I don't know where any of them live. And I'm going to leave it that way. We did nothing improper. I stand by our map. CHR. SIRACUSA: Thank you, Linda. Jeff, do you want to say something? MR. MELROSE: Yes, let me just add a couple of things. In the process of thinking about the island wide, how you draw districts, one of the things I was an advocate for from the beginning was that we use kind of a mauka /makai orientation; that we find a way to move, you know, have council people represent whole systems, as opposed to portions of systems. So, we had several designs that had an urban little pocket in Kailua, or we did a couple times in Hilo. But I consistently tried to get that concept that if we want to represent, let's represent on a terrain, on a geography that is both traditionally recognized in an ahupua`a and a moku system, but also it just seems to me the way we need to be grounded in a mauka /makai environment. So when we got into the Hilo districts and that was important to me, that we went mauka /makai. I think Pat and I saw the kauna of Hilo Paliku, Hilo One, Hilo Hanakahi connection. That was something we agreed to and thought would be a good way to go. So, that mauka /makai connection was really where it was an important thing to me. There are about 30 or 50 ways to draw lines with the number of census tracts that come up through our districts, so there were many, many options. We drew one and drew them a couple of times over a period of time. So, it isn't like we reached out in a far distance. I too, do not know where these two gentlemen live. I tried to make that a habit; I mean I know that well. I think at some point, somebody told me they live near by each other, but I couldn't tell you any more than that. So, when the line was drawn; that wasn't the line that I - - -We weren't drawing the line for that purpose. So, I don't want to belabor it. I think we have all said what we basically believe, but I stand on the lines, and stand on what we did. Thank you. 23