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cars would be going in and out? I’m concerned about that, as well as I was concerned about the safety <br />aspect of going out onto Paradise Street. <br /> <br />KERN: I guess I have a concern of too much “pave Paradise and put up a parking lot.” You know, it’s <br />a challenge. It’s clean, it’s nice, it’s pretty when it’s asphalt, you know, or concrete. But at the same <br />time you’ve got to do something with that water, with that runoff from that water, where it’s going to <br />go; and then it also kind of takes some of the Hawaiiana out of it, to me, when you drive by places that <br />can be kind of quaint but there’s a lot more pavement in there. It’s a preference, you know. I think it’s <br />a personal thing. <br /> <br />DOMINGO: I think without paving it’ll probably cause to create more puddles on the, within that <br />area; and then, you know, it won’t be clean because it’s splashing water, people walking through it. <br /> <br />KERN: You know, yeah, one of the things though with coming up with that green building is to try <br />and get more porous substances on the ground that will actually absorb the water and lighter colors of <br />concrete. They have a white concrete that actually makes things cooler. So, I mean, there’s different <br />things you can do. I’m just a little tired of black concrete or black asphalt, but that’s my opinion. So <br />we can agree to disagree. Yeah? Okay, Jeff. Any other discussion? Julie. <br /> <br />MECKLENBURG: Sorry, if I could just -. I’m looking at Chapter 25 and I think it doesn’t speak to it <br />being paved. Is that -? <br /> <br />KERN: So does it actually state on here, cause I’m trying, I mean, it sounds like it kind of does but it <br />kind of doesn’t say. <br /> <br />MECKLENBURG: No, it doesn’t require it to be paved as drafted. It implies that it will be because it <br />says the plans will show the paved driveway and paved parking stalls. But -. <br /> <br />KERN: But it doesn’t read as a requirement, then? <br /> <br />MECKLENBURG: Correct. <br /> <br />KERN: Then I’ll just withdraw my motion, Commissioner Domingo; and I don’t have to disagree. <br /> <br />DARROW: Well, your condition still states that parking shall be paved. So we would have to still <br />amend the condition to eliminate 4. <br /> <br />KERN: Which condition is that? <br /> <br />DARROW: Four. <br /> <br />MECKLENBURG: I think the point is that it doesn’t state that outright. <br /> <br />KERN: It doesn’t state that outright. It states some of that in there, but it doesn’t state -. <br /> <br />23 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br /> <br /> <br />