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<br />KERN: Yeah, yeah. <br /> <br />SUNG: Coverage wise, the reason -. <br /> <br />KERN: It boggles my mind. I know that there’s a Verizon tower on the other side of Geothermal. <br /> <br />SUNG: Correct. <br /> <br />KERN: And I have Verizon and I drive that area all the time, and it does not work very well at all. <br /> <br />SUNG: Well, the problem is this – We’re under FCC guidelines. The output, the radiation output is extremely <br />low. Now while it’s good that it’s low, the problem is it doesn’t go far. Now with the terrain, topography of, <br />you know, where you’re driving, there will always be dead spots. So that’s the downfall when it comes to, you <br />know, following FCC guidelines. Otherwise, if you want it to blast it all the way through, sure, you’re going to <br />get coverage miles and miles away. But at the same time, you know, health wise it’s not, you know, we have to <br />certainly look at that. So the output on all the cell towers under FCC guidelines, depending on how high the <br />tower is and the output, is basically somewhat minimal. So that’s why you don’t catch it far. And that’s why <br />there are so many needs for other towers to kind of cover that dead spot or to, for capacity issues -. Let’s say if <br />you have two cell towers and you have a community that has grown and you have more users, subscribers, and <br />more people use cell phones now, now that cell tower is only going to have so much capacity. So once you <br />have, let’s say emergency situation, power outage, or earthquake, and even natural disasters, everybody, landline <br />is down, everybody wants to use the cell phone, so what do they do? Cell phones. So everybody uses the cell <br />phone same time, well, it’s full capacity, and that’s when you get dropped calls and nobody gets phone calls. <br />So, and that’s why sometimes you just, there are more carriers who want to add more towers to provide the <br />capacity issue as well as the coverage issue. So -. <br /> <br />KERN: Okay. And this one pretty much is partly going to cover just Leilani -? <br /> <br />SUNG: Leilani Estates. <br /> <br />KERN: And maybe either side of the road that passes it? <br /> <br />SUNG: Somewhat, yes. Well, and I think it was east/west or north/south, as well on that main road, Kupono, I <br />forgot the road name, but also on the other side as well. And that’s why we want to be more in the middle than <br />anywhere else, you know, not too far north and too far south. And that just worked, it just worked out that way. <br />So -. <br /> <br />KERN: Commissioner Ishibashi. <br /> <br />ISHIBASHI: Thank you, Brother Chair. Should that pole fall, how many homes within the vicinity that would <br />possibly get damaged if, whichever way it falls, your tower should fall in an earthquake? <br /> <br />SUNG: Well, I have never had a cell tower, I’ve never heard of a cell tower collapsing. And most cell towers, <br />they are built in a sense where it collapses down instead of going, it’s a section that you install. So usually most <br />cell towers, and I need to confirm that, they collapse straight down instead of going sideways, or one way or the <br />other. So we, in most cases -. We follow setback guidelines. In Agricultural zones for Hawaii County the <br />setback for Ag-1 is one-foot setback, no, five-foot setback, no, one-foot setback for every five-foot of the tower. <br />So we follow that guideline. But as far as if a 150-foot tower falls down, it’s still within the property line. So it <br />would just fall within Leilani Estates Association ground. It won’t hit any homes or what have you. But, once <br />again, it most likely is going to collapse straight down. That’s how it’s designed. <br />6 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br /> <br /> <br />