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GONZALEZ: To answer your first question, originally when the festival, in my opinion, when the <br />festival was originally put on in the early days, it was always advertised as a Father’s Day ‘ohana <br />event, and that particular brand did attract the ‘ohana, the family, etc. so forth. And I recall one of <br />the first concerts I went to was very sedate; it was very kind of geared towards the family, and the <br />types of concert players they had up there, as someone here in the Commission mentioned, did <br />attract that type of people. However, I recall several concerts after that where, because security was <br />so lax, people saw an opportunity and they exploited the opportunity. And then from then on, you <br />had groups and gangs of people. And now with the social media, information is so quickly gathered <br />and so quickly transferred that you can have people up here in a flash – I think they even call it <br />flashmobbing. And it’s a whole another, it’s a whole another communication system that occurs <br />now. And I think it’s, it’s changed, it’s changed quite a bit, and the types of groups they have and <br />the brand that it has now that it attracts different kind of people. <br /> <br />The Saddle Road being open to Hilo, I think you are absolutely right, that will access people from <br />the Hilo area in a much quicker rate and in much quicker time. And again, it’s that brand of the <br />Waiki‘i Festival that’s, it’s the type of attitude that people have; when we come up to a rural area, <br />and you can pretty much do what you want to do, because you have a limited amount of security <br />people. And the security people have a limited amount of enforcement, okay; they cannot arrest <br />you, they can not search you, okay. They are limited really in what they can do, and they know <br />that, people know that. And so I think it will attract people from a widespread area from the Big <br />Island. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Thank you. Any other questions of the testifier? Hearing none, Leslie? <br /> <br />AGORASTOS: Hello. Obviously, I have a very different take on the Waiki‘i Music Festival; I <br />thought it was just wonderful with the fabulous array of great Hawaiian singers. It did toward the <br />end of the festivals where you were aware of more, you know, people with their beers and things, <br />sure; but I think Tim is making a huge effort to get this under control. I think it’s fabulous for our <br />whole island. I think it’s wonderful. It’s great for our communities and it’s an opportunity; we <br />don’t usually get to hear lots of different Hawaiian performers. And it’s a beautiful setting. So I <br />feel confident that Tim is professional enough that he can take care of these issues. He has already <br />said he’d have more security than we ever had and be professional. So I look at it quite differently <br />and I have a lot of confidence in Tim and his ability to do a good production. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Commissioners, any questions of Leslie Agorastos? <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Just a -. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Commissioner Bowman. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Quick one, because I think it’s important. And you’ve lived in Waiki‘i how long? <br /> <br />AGORASTOS: Since ’79. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Okay, so you are a pretty long-term, probably one of the first residents. <br /> <br />AGORASTOS: Yes. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Okay, thank you. <br />17 <br />EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />