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the language regarding special use permits would still be there in that if you have more than 30,000, <br />you need a special use permit. And what I tried to do to differentiate between 15 and, the minor and <br />major is that for minor tourism we have a limitation on the numbers per week, we have a limitation <br />on the size of the vehicles; so basically, if you are going to have a minor tourism operation, the <br />vehicles accessing your property basically have to be 15-passenger vans as opposed to having <br />Jack’s Tours show up. And the reason I made that distinction was that I didn’t think the 15- <br />passenger van really required much more parking than what you currently have for a farm truck. <br />But the concern with smaller farms and particularly with rural areas and old homestead roads is <br />some of these roads are not designed for big buses. The Old Māmalahoa in Kona, you’ve got sight <br />distance issues. And so, basically, I was trying to balance some basic safety issues that I could see <br />with the larger scale operations while trying to make it easier and cheaper for the smaller operations <br />and the smaller farmers to engage in some ag tourism. So that’s what the bill reflects. And we have <br />taken it out to the Hawai‘i Agricultural Tourism Association, you know, and we’ve got a favorable <br />response. It was really in response to their concerns that I made these amendments. We’ve also <br />shared it with the Mayor’s Agricultural Advisory Committee and, you know, basically it’s been <br />favorable. There have been a few concerns here and there, but everyone seems to agree that this is <br />going in the right direction because the intent of the state was to allow this as a permitted use. And <br />so I’m trying not to make it too onerous on the farmers to allow them to have it. The current law, <br />they still can’t have overnight visitors; so this is just a daytime type of a thing. But, and there’s still <br />some requirements there about, you know, them having actual agricultural activity, so it’s not just <br />tourism. We, you know, as this goes forward, we may want to add additional definitions like <br />botanical gardens or something like that, because there are some things that I might not have <br />caught. But basically, I think it’s a pretty good bill, goes in the right direction. And the other <br />counties are waiting for us, and whatever we pass, they are going to use as the model to pass a bill <br />on their island. Maui County is particularly interested; they’ve been waiting because their feeling <br />was that they didn’t want to reinvent the wheel. So they are going to look at what we do. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Commissioners, any questions of the Director? <br /> <br />BOWMAN: I had one but I’ve got to look for it again. <br /> <br />ARAI: Madam Chairwoman? <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Yes, Daryn. <br /> <br />ARAI: Just a quick note. This bill was heard by the Windward Planning Commission at its April 4 <br />meeting, I think it was. And they did vote to postpone action on it for additional -. So I’m going to <br />basically bring it back before them on their May 3 hearing. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Okay. Commissioner Bowman. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: I think I know what my question was; I was reading this late one night and I wrote this <br />comment, but I don’t know what it was. This is in regards to (6), which you are taking out, “Gross <br />revenues from agricultural tourism ….” That’s all excluded, right? On Page 6. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Of the background report -? <br /> <br />LEITHEAD TODD: The bill? <br /> <br />2 <br />EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />