2012-05-03 Windward Transcript John Hegarty

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reasons why I asked Mr. Galimba there whether you guys were going to do future commercial development there, which is not. And I think that, that’s, you know, the choice of the subdivision there to make it more of a community benefit in those types of ways. The other challenge that I’ve seen is, great, you know, we have, let’s say the General Plan allowed for some expansion there. It doesn’t mean the owners actually are going to do something with it. We see that in HPP. There are some large parcels there with the boundary around it, but there’s nothing happening. And so it’s challenging to find an area where the land use pattern and the person who owns the land are in alignment. Does that make sense? A lot of times, you know, it would be great. You could do it there but the owner doesn’t want to do it. And so right here we’re at this impasse. I would personally like to see it get approved with some strict conditions on there, one of them which would be no alcohol and potentially a right-turn and, right-turn in off of Ainaloa, right turn out off of Ainaloa, with maybe th a little bit of improvement to 37 to get the traffic off of Ainaloa and then pulling in there. And obviously that would lead to some additional costs to Mr. Hegarty but it might mitigate some of the concerns. And, again, land use is not always a win-win. Many times it’s not. And so when that comes we sometimes create a lose-lose to create a win-win, if that makes sense. It’s very, very challenging. And I think it’s something that we can do to mitigate traffic on 130. And it’s a huge concern. I personally lost a friend of mine on 130 that passed away from that highway. And so that’s my take on it. If I could get any other feedback or potentially a -. GONZALES: I’d like to ask -. KERN: Commissioner Gonzales. GONZALES: If I could. KERN: Yes. Mr. Hegarty, come up, please. GONZALES: Thank you. You know, I’m a business man, too. I just, I mean honestly can you, do you think you can survive without selling alcohol? Is that something that you’re willing to -? HEGARTY: Definitely. GONZALES: You can get by on that? HEGARTY: Yes, I can. GONZALES: I mean you’d be all right with that kind of a restriction? HEGARTY: And I’ll be more than willing to do that. I don’t want to see a bunch of drunks running around the place either. But at the same time if you stop and look at it realistically men and women work extremely hard during the week, they go home and they might want to have a glass of beer or glass of wine with their spouse. I mean who are we to deny them? GONZALES: Oh, I understand that -. HEGARTY: Okay. GONZALES: You know, I might have had a beer once or twice. HEGARTY: Yeah. But we could do that, yes. 14 EXHIBIT A