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The special permit was based on what they presented, not what anyone else presented, not what the <br />neighbors presented. And I would hate to even imagine how many hours it has taken for the staff of <br />the Planning Department to respond to the complaints filed against what has been going on at this <br />particular project. So you have to consider more than just what has been presented by the Applicant. <br />You need to also remember there are other people involved in this. And maybe they do not want to <br />come forward because maybe they don't want to compete with this kind of crowd. But there are those <br />people that have to be considered as well. So I think you need to -. <br /> <br />PUBLIC: (Inaudible side comments). <br /> <br />KERN: Order. Same respect, please. Thank you. <br /> <br />SELF: I think that the Planning Commission needs to review the law and keep that in mind; and <br />there's no doubt that the violations have occurred. On the other hand if the Planning Commission <br />decides that it’s not going to revoke the permit then and give them an opportunity to come in to apply <br />for an amendment, which they've done before and then they withdrew the amendment, but if that's <br />what the Planning Commission is alternatively thinking about doing, then there should be some way to <br />make sure that they comply with what's there now. I mean there has been no compliance. So, you <br />know, the permit needs to be complied with the. It's still in place, nothing changes that. Thank you. <br />And she wants to talk. <br /> <br />KERN: Okay. <br /> <br />LEITHEAD TOOD: Good morning, or is it possibly afternoon already? <br /> <br />KERN: Just about there. <br /> <br />LEITHEAD TODD: All I’ve ever wanted is for SPACE to come in, seek an amendment to their <br />special use permit, basically list what kinds of activities that they propose to hold on the facility over <br />and above what they are already permitted for, and allow that to be in a process where neighbors in the <br />community that they live in can suggest and asked the Planning Commission to put limitations -- How <br />many performances? If you're going to allow performances, how many? What hours? If you look at <br />the current permit and the representations, the maximum number of people at any time at that facility <br />was supposed to be 40 students and 10 staff, 50 people. The complaints that we've received have <br />addressed parking issues, traffic issues, noise issues, from more than one neighbor. And we seem to be <br />here arguing over what the definition of a public performance is. For me it's, if it’s more than the 40 <br />students and 10 staff members, then it has moved into public, because the representation was that that’s <br />the maximum number of people at any time in that special use permit. The reason that that condition is <br />there is because it's agricultural land, because it's in a subdivision with neighbors, you put those types <br />of conditions on it. <br /> <br />We have had other people with special use permits that have had violations and we investigate <br />complaints. Almost, uniformly we work with people trying to get them to comply, and we have a high <br />success rate. We currently will have an application from Kalani Honua which is going to the Land Use <br />Commission, which is a result of our working with them to try and get some of the things that we do <br />not feel are covered under their existing permits to become legally permitted. <br /> 20 <br /> EXHIBIT B <br /> <br /> <br />