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come down here and to engage with what is supposed to be a democratic process. We <br />elected these folks to sit in these chairs and to listen to us so that they can vote as <br />representatives of us. And it’s somewhat patronizing to be here all day and to be <br />listening intently and to be listening to the council members that are here, and then to <br />have someone who’s not been here listening all day to slide in at the last minute to vote. <br />Also, to leave early, to be up and down, to have these meetings have other things <br />planned. We elect these folks, but we pay them. And that’s not true in all municipal <br />governments. Many elected bodies actually serve as volunteers. We’re paying our folks, <br />and we really expect them, for those four days of the month that they are supposed to be <br />here, to be here. So what I’m here to ask all of you to do is to consider making some <br />rules that have some teeth. We need to have some sort of loop to where, like Bob said, if <br />you’re gone a certain percentage of the time, you get docked in some way, whether it’s <br />pay or whatever it is. Maybe the council themselves could weigh in and come up with <br />those rules. So I would like you all to please consider that. This is a problem. It’s <br />chronic. We all would not be here today if it weren’t a big issue. So we’ll be back. <br />Thank you. <br /> <br />Mr. Dill called up Ronald Fujiyoshi, who had signed up to testify on agenda item 5b. <br /> <br />MR. FUJIYOSHI: If I can, I want to testify on a also. <br /> <br />MR. DILL: Okay, go ahead. <br /> <br />MR. FUJIYOSHI: Good morning. I don’t know if we call you commissioners, but board <br />members of the ethics commission. My name is Ronald Fujiyoshi. I am a lay pastor in <br />the United Church of Christ. I served as a missionary in Asia for 20 years and came <br />back in ’88. I have been attending quite a number of council meetings and testifying on a <br />number of issues, especially more recently. And my experience in other organizations, <br />like within my church, even though people have been at odds before they came into a <br />meeting of a process of talking it out—it’s been sometimes very miraculous, how people <br />change their mind after discussing with each other and hearing different sides to the <br />issues. And so I feel the participation in the process is very key, and the more eye-to-eye <br />and directly you’re engaging, the more possibility you can really understand the views of <br />everybody in the room and come to a fair and better understanding. So it’s not just the <br />voting that’s important, but hearing the testimony and seeing the body language and <br />looking people in the eye. I think it’s very important. And so—especially in the case of <br />Councilmember Onishi, that even after the article came out in the newspaper, in the next <br />council meeting he wasn’t even present for most of the discussion. Now my <br />understanding is that there may not be clear guidelines in terms of ethics dealing with <br />council members. It has to do up to now mainly with people who are employees of the <br />county. And so I ask that the Board of Ethics draft ethics that pertain to council members <br />so that they can better serve their people, and this be something that goes to the council <br />and then they can refine it. Thank you very much. <br /> <br />Mr. Dill called up Terri Napeahi, who had signed up to testify on Petition 2012-01. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />