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actually determine how protective any of these devices will be to the anchialine ponds, I’m not sure <br />how we are going to be able to confirm that. So I don’t want to say that Public Works is absolutely <br />going to be able to prevent any type of pollution from occurring. It’s just that we would have to <br />look at what the best -. <br /> <br />LEITHEAD TODD: Well, we don’t -. <br /> <br />EMLER: What the best information is on, you know, whatever is available at the present time. <br /> <br />LEITHEAD TODD: Well, we have some concerns, but we don’t actually necessarily have any <br />documentation that even without it that pollution would occur. We are just trying to take some <br />steps and mitigation to try and prevent and address some of the concerns in the event. So I think we <br />just do the best that we can. But some general condition in there that says that we are going to work <br />towards that, I think, is definitely, you know, I mean, obviously we don’t know exactly what we are <br />going to do. We didn’t know exactly what we were going to do when we started the Mid Level <br />Road, you know, but -. <br /> <br />EMLER: I would think that it would have to be something that would be -. If there is a <br />memorandum of agreement with HDOT or something that is in place already that we can refer to, <br />that at least gives the County some cover in this issue, rather than leaving it open to the County to <br />be liable for something happening, because, you know, we don’t have enough background research <br />on it. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Thank you. Mr. Zimpfer, is there any other comment or concern? No? Okay, thank <br />you. Mr. Matsuyama? Thank you. <br /> <br />MATSUYAMA: All that I can urge all of you is let’s not have a replay of Queen K Phase II for <br />this frontage road, please. We feel that we are just hostages out there trying to work with all the <br />different agencies and government bodies to do what is commonsensically a basic need in the area. <br />But we seem to always fall short. But, you know, there are human lives out there facing the <br />situation on a daily basis. And I think many times you lose sight of the very important fact that our <br />loved ones are out there, you know. And the present situation is unacceptable. We need to upgrade <br />the situation. Let’s get it done right away. We are hearing that Queen K will start pretty soon. We <br />want to have the frontage road on time so that it can dovetail into the improvement. Thank you. <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Thank you. Any questions, Commissioners? Mr. Lee? <br /> <br />LEE: I have to agree with Mr. Matsuyama in that, you know, it is time for us to develop that area. <br />But again, we still have to be aware and we have to be cognizant of the facts of what we do on the <br />land and the environment. Yes, I totally agree that we should improve the lives of the people in <br />Kona community, or create safety. But again, you know, I come from, we are coming from a <br />different point of view, okay. We are, like I said, the original owners of this land, and so we have a <br />different responsibility, you know, not only to our community but to our ancestors, and that’s why <br />we are here today, okay. We want you to make the proper decision, hear all the testimony, but yet, <br />you know, take into consideration what we need to do to keep our existence going, okay, so that our <br />traditional practices are still adhere to without being damaged, is what I’m saying, because of new <br />development. <br /> <br />10 <br />EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />