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<br />HOLUM: I was not (inaudible). <br /> <br />GONZALEZ: Okay, yeah, so that’s one name I recognized on there. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Okay. Because I was going to say that obviously the advisory group, like you said, came <br />up with some conclusions and some recommendations, and maybe that is the kind of input that <br />would also be very meaningful to us in making this kind of decision and such; I mean the <br />community, as you heard from public testimony, very important to us, and so to even know that <br />Mr. Ward was part of the process, to me it would have been very important. Thank you, Brandon. <br /> <br />GONZALEZ: Thank you. And then also for the Lederers asking to see the final impact report and <br />the CSS report, I pointed out to Mr. Lederer that the public reading file in the back, attached to our <br />application was the final environmental assessment and Appendix 6 of the report was the Context <br />Sensitive Solution memorandum. Thank you. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Thank you. Commissioners, any other questions? <br /> <br />BEAUDET: Yes. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Brandi. <br /> <br />BEAUDET: Brandon, you know, it’s outside of the application, but Phase 2 of the project, for me, <br />you know, continuity of the improvements from a traffic management standpoint is critical. So <br />what is the Department’s position on the timing of the second phase? I mean, is it planned or are <br />we waiting for fiscal budgeting or, I mean, is it in the current plan? <br /> <br />GONZALEZ: Well, as described, there was a $20-million bond for La‘aloa. Now that <br />encompasses the entire roadway. But, that’s why we are saying, there’s components of the roadway <br />that may require more cost for construction and engineering. That’s why I said at the previous <br />meeting we have $20,000,000 to work with for the entire roadway and we need to stay within that. <br />So if the more challenging aspects we can come in at a reasonable amount, then that gives us a <br />better idea of how much we have for the rest of the roadway – if that makes sense. You know, we <br />are trying to make this be fiscally prudent. <br /> <br />BEAUDET: Thank you. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Lani, did you have a question? <br /> <br />BOWMAN: Pardon my ignorance, but you had said “the more challenging aspects of the project.” <br />So what would that be in your opinion? <br /> <br />GONZALEZ: As a layperson who had this explained to him by the genius engineers, the segment <br />that has yet to be completed, right, there was a question, like you said, about the slope; so designing <br />a roadway per the engineering standards or roadway standards, and also incorporating elements of <br />what the advisory groups and the community wanted, like the bike lanes, the walking paths, <br />improved shoulder areas, all of that has to be engineered, and you can design it on paper, but then <br />you also have to look at the field conditions and determine if you can actually build it. So it’s <br />challenging; it’s not as challenging usually building a road on a flat surface, but I think common <br />14 <br />EXHIBIT E <br /> <br />