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MR. BALSIS: That should be a contention with the Transit Agency, would it not? <br /> <br />MR. WARREN: Yes, sir, and I spoke with the people in the Transit Agency, and basically <br />I just got the brush off or the bum's rush. That's all I got from them. And then I went <br />further, as is stated in the first letter to the editor, which you have. I named the names. <br />William Brilhante would be the person and he was the person that they referred me to. <br />And so again it was very vague, his reason. And then if I may add, when I went to your <br />last hearing, William Brilhante approached me and I was sitting next to Tim Rees and <br />then he came up to me and again tried to steer me off into—on a wild goose chase. Again <br />it was the promise of perhaps a resolution before the legislative body. But then I said this <br />is no longer a legislative matter. It's an administrative matter. And again we get back to <br />the County must follow their own rules. So again, even with William Brilhante and <br />again it's all this, I don't know what you call it--psychological warfare - -where they do <br />not address the problem. But when I give a rational answer to their question, they'll pick <br />part of that answer. They try to —they take my argument out of my tent and put it in their <br />tent. And again that's just a wild goose chase. People have been doing this since the <br />days of Julius Caesar. It's just common practice. And then that's how I suffered under <br />William Brilhante. And again, Bobby Command it was the same psychological warfare <br />offering, where he goes oh Jerry and we've known each other. He is my friend still to <br />this day, because we've known each other a long time. He helped me with the sewer <br />project in Nd `dlehu by bringing facts into print and backing them up with interviews with <br />the EPA. And they put that in print. So I've always considered him to be my friend, and I <br />still do to this day, because I like the man. <br /> <br />MR. BALSIS: Are there any - ? <br /> <br />MR. HENRICKS: I'd like to ask a question. <br /> <br />MR. WARREN: Yes, sir. <br /> <br />MR. HENRICKS: Is your complaint against the rule itself, or against the treatment by <br />the department? <br /> <br />MR. WARREN: It's against the treatment, because <br /> <br />MR. HENRICKS: --by the department? <br /> <br />MR. WARREN: By Bobby Command. <br /> <br />MR. HENRICKS: Okay. <br /> <br />MR. WARREN: And I'm military. I have a military mind. I'm a veteran. And I've been <br />an officer in United Rubber Workers and also an officer in ILWU. <br /> <br />MR. HENRICKS: Can you specify exactly what treatment you felt that was bad by him? <br />