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lot of it; and I’m assembling the record right now for the last 30 years to see what the heck is going on
<br />here. What the heck is going on here? Why are you folks, not you in particular, the government -?
<br />They’ve had four different changes for that Asset Fund, the names have changed four or five times in
<br />the last -. When I mediated that, that was only, only for relocation temporary and permanent. Look
<br />what happened? It got changed by administrations -.
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<br />KERN: Thank you, Mrs. Hedtke.
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<br />HEDTKE: And I’m done.
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<br />KERN: Thank you. Any questions for Ms. Hedtke? Seeing none, thank you. Anybody else wanting
<br />to testify?
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<br />COLLINS: Yes, sir.
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<br />KERN: Over on the table, fill out the yellow form, and then you’ll get three minutes. And if there’s
<br />any, this will be the last call, ding, ding, ding. Anybody else would like to testify, please fill out the
<br />yellow form over here on the table and we’ll get you up here. Thank you. Mr. Collins, please raise
<br />your right hand. Do you swear to tell the truth today before the Windward Planning Commission?
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<br />COLLINS: I do.
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<br />KERN: Okay, then please use your microphone. Give me your name, area in which you live, and how
<br />long you’re lived there.
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<br />COLLINS: Charles Collins. I live in, my family’s home is in Nanawale, and about 30 years.
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<br />KERN: Okay. Your three minutes begins now.
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<br />COLLINS: I did substitute teaching here on the Big Island for, you know, couple of decades. And
<br />recently some of the kids have brought this material that, you know, we’ve identified on the periodic
<br />table as OZ. And the source of it is supposedly, you know, come from the geothermal. And OZ, it’s
<br />kind of unique stuff. Like moisture from the atmosphere forms on it and things like that. But it’s a
<br />hazardous material. Actually a chemist will tell you you’re supposed to have a vapor hood and, you
<br />know, protective gloves, and things like that. And so, you know, that’s just heresy, and I don’t know
<br />where it came from. But I’ve just been advising the kids to tell their friends, yes, it’s interesting stuff
<br />and everything but don’t handle it, and the vapors are, you know, really bad.
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<br />And then the other thing is, you know, scrubbers. Like the problem with geothermal is the, my
<br />understanding is the H2S emissions, hydrogen sulfide which is, you know, deadly, deadly poison to
<br />human beings, but H2S also comes out of the volcano. However, like in the oil fields in California
<br />they put scrubbers on the vent. And, you know, there are here in Hawai‘i in the volcanic vents under
<br />the ocean there’s actually critters that live there that metabolize H2S and fixed nitrogen. And I was
<br />thinking that if we had, you know, culture pressure vessel that that could serve as a scrubber for the
<br />geothermal and, you know, greatly reduce the health hazard. Thank you, sir.
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