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you know, this project is going to require a lot more infrastructure. So, I think, you know, when <br />we get into the next design phase, costs, a more detailed cost evaluation will be done as well. <br /> <br />KERN: Thank you. Are there any questions for Ms. Shen? Seeing none, thank you. Mr. Hong? <br /> <br />HONG: Well, I think that actually concludes our presentation of the project. I understand we <br />have a lot of public testimony. I just note that, I just note that I live in Kaūmana. My students, <br />my two children went to Kaūmana Elementary School, just like John Thatcher who lives in <br />Kaūmana. So when we talk about neighborhoods and neighbors, I live there too. <br /> <br />KERN: Are there any questions for Mr. Hong. Mr. Hong, hang on for one second. I’ve got a <br />question for you. Any questions from any of the Commissioners? <br /> <br />ONO: I do have a question of Mr. Thatcher. <br /> <br />KERN: Okay. Hold on, Commissioner Ono, please use your microphone and let me swear Mr. <br />Thatcher in. Could you please raise your right hand. Do you swear to tell the truth today before <br />the Windward Planning Commission? <br /> <br />THATCHER: Yes, I do. <br /> <br />KERN: Very good. And, Commissioner Ono, you may go ahead. <br /> <br />ONO: Yes. I’m not familiar with the concept of the charter school. But what would make your <br />program, your curriculum, unique as compared to other schools? <br /> <br />THATCHER: Okay. I think one of the things that would make our program unique is that we <br />are very committed. From the beginning of our school, we were a school within a school for five <br />years. We’ve been a charter school for 13 years now. We were the first charter school <br />authorized in the State of Hawai‘i. We believe very strongly in sustainable education and an <br />education that will enable our graduates to be able to find meaningful employment on this island. <br />And so it’s important to us to have an opportunity for the students to be exposed to sustainable <br />agriculture, forestry, conservation, ecotourism. These are some of the areas that were in our <br />original charter, but the concepts were in there and we still believe in this today. <br /> <br />ONO: Your present location that you’re seeing approval on -? <br /> <br />THATCHER: Yes. <br /> <br />ONO: I’m not, well, in my driving through that area, I don’t see that as a location suitable for an <br />agricultural curriculum. Am I wrong in that? <br /> <br />THATCHER: Well, we’re not planning a traditional agricultural curriculum. What we’re <br />talking about is hydroponics, greenhouses, future, future-oriented agriculture. So while the land <br />is not great land for traditional agriculture, the land is very similar to a lot of areas on this island <br />where it is possible to develop sustainable agriculture using systems like hydroponic systems. <br /> 14 <br /> EXHIBIT A <br /> <br /> <br />