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<br />MOSES: And maybe you can clarify. We talked about the record. What is going to be given to <br />the hearings officer in this contested case? And is it, you know, it was asked if, you know, what <br />should be given as far as record. And I’d like to see the entirety of the record be given, in its <br />entirety. <br />AU: Well, we do have the entirety. I got a big box back here, they can take a look at it. But we <br />do have our CDs. So the hearings officer, if we choose to hire a hearings officer, the hearings <br />officer will get all that information. A CD was submitted to us, I believe it’s like 2000 pages, <br />things that we’ve been receiving for the last four months. Even going into the first hearing we <br />got all these binders. So I hope that answers your question. And maybe Ivan can interject. <br />TORIGOE: Yeah. I’d just say that, yeah, the entire record is what it is. But in a contested case <br />hearing there would probably be some discussion about what parts of it should be given formal <br />status as exhibits or, and then what kind of cross-examination may occur. So there will be some <br />discussion about the weight and importance and credibility of the evidence in the course of the <br />contested case hearing. <br />AU: Okay, thank you, Ivan. Good question, Commissioner Moses. <br />TORIGOE: You can take the vote if there’s no other discussion -. <br />AU: Yeah. If there’s no other discussion, we’ll go, we’ll take a vote. Mr. Darrow? <br />DARROW: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The motion before us is to hire a hearings officer. With <br />that, I’ll take the motion, or the vote. Commissioner Moses? <br />MOSES: Aye. <br />DARROW: Commissioner Ishibashi? <br />ISHIBASHI: Aye. <br />DARROW: Commissioner Gonzales? <br />GONZALES: Aye. <br />DARROW: And Mr. Chairman? <br />AU: Aye. <br />DARROW: The motion passes four to zero. <br />AU: Everybody will get notified in writing. Thank you. For all parties, CBESS, Connections, <br />County of Hawai‘i Planning Department, petitioners, Mr. Gomes, Ivan, does anybody have <br />anything to say? Put it on the record now. Any other issues? Mr. Hong? <br />HONG: I’m sorry, I’m just being too fundamental, I mean elementary. But was there a motion <br />to grant the contested case hearing? Is that necessary or -? <br />26 <br /> <br /> <br />