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<br />ROY: And this aspect of regulation of visitations to lands. You are not covering the aspects of <br />sacred lands. The issues are too large for this bill to encompass basically. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Thank you, Mikahala. Aloha. And at this point I would like to close public testimony on <br />this agenda item. Commissioners, any discussion after hearing eight different speakers from the <br />public? Director, as the applicant, would you like to have some sort of summary? <br /> <br />ARAI: Madam Chairwoman, just to, this is a Council initiated action, so the bill was introduced by <br />the Council, not the Director. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Sorry. Yes, yes, yes, you are right. But nonetheless, Bobby Jean, would you like to add a <br />few comments in closing? <br /> <br />LEITHEAD TODD: I think, one, we have 120 days to move this; I don’t think we can punt it down <br />the road. <br /> <br />ARAI: That is correct. We also have this scheduled at the next Windward Planning Commission at <br />the beginning of June, and that would just give us enough time to consolidate the recommendations <br />and send it up to Council within the 120-day period. An option is a special meeting, if it needs to be <br />kicked down, but it has to occur before the, by the first week in June somewhere, I would think; so <br />that’s going to be somewhat difficult to coordinate. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Director. <br /> <br />LEITHEAD TODD: I was going to say that I think you should move this up to Council. If you <br />have specific concerns or recommendations, not necessarily amendments, but you want to raise <br />issues, then you could do that in your letter to the Council that you might want them to do some <br />public outreach or, you know, take a look at certain issues that were raised here, that’s up to you as <br />Commissioners. I gave a favorable recommendation, and part of it is that, one, we were adding <br />additional definitions, we were trying to distinguish between major and minor, and this is in the <br />same vein as the bill that I had originally started with, and so it’s very consistent. It’s more <br />stringent than the bill that I had started with, because it has 5,000. But it has some of the elements <br />that I thought were important, which is that for the minor tourism we limit it to passenger vehicles, <br />you know, up to a 15-passenger vehicle, you can’t take a full-on bus to the smaller operations, and <br />that was to lessen the impact on the road infrastructure. It has a weekly count, and that’s I think <br />because it’s difficult, if you say that it’s, you know, 30 people today, what happens, if 31 comes in, <br />and a weekly count seems to give a little more flexibility, and I like that. And that was a concession <br />to the fact that on smaller operations you were trying to lessen the impact. And if you wanted to go <br />bigger, then you needed to come in and do the plan approval and do that. I like the fact that, I think <br />you want, the biggest concern I had was trying to eliminate having to go hire an engineer to do it, <br />because part of the problem was that there had been language in the plan approval section of the <br />County Code that basically said if you were going to do plan approval, you had to do a drainage <br />study. And so we were trying to tweak this, because if you are not building any additional buildings <br />besides what you already have, if you are not doing, you are basically inviting people to come in at <br />your existing farm operation, at your existing barn or storage sheds or whatever, and then just doing <br />a little bit of tour, why should we force people to go and pay five or six thousand dollars to get an <br />engineering study that says that they are not generating any more water than they were previously <br />19 <br />EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />