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county, and state funding to be able to deliver the services. HOPE is not paid for managing the project. Their salaries are allocated across all of their programs, so there would be no direct economic gain for him or his organization for running the project. <br /> <br /> Mr. Hisashima said years ago, as part of his work in the prison system, he had worked with HOPE Services. It was known back then as the Office of Social Ministry, and it helped inmates find housing. He had dealt with Ms. Menino a lot, and Mr. McComber was a part of their Going Home program. He asked whether it would be a conflict for him to vote on this matter. Ms. Schoen said that according to the rules, someone could file a request to have him disqualified due to a conflict, but otherwise the general rule is that if he believes he can be fair and impartial, despite his prior relationship with HOPE Services and the petitioner, then he can proceed with participating in the voting. Mr. Hisashima said he would participate in the proceedings. <br /> <br /> Mr. McComber explained how an RFP is different from an IFB. With an RFP, the County puts forth its idea of core things it would like in a project, and then it reviews the various proposals submitted. There could be different competitors submitting varying proposals. A requirement of the proposals is to meet the core focus of what the County is requesting. With IFBs, the County designs a project and comes up with a specifications list, then requests bids on how much it will cost. So for the Ulu Wini project, the County will be putting forth in the RFP the basic services it wants to offer, and the providers will design a program to provide the services in their proposals. Their proposals on how to provide the services may be quite different. Mr. McComber said HOPE Services will have no advantage in that regard. <br /> <br /> Ms. Schoen said she received a call from the director of the Office of Housing and Community Services, saying he was available to respond to the Board if it had any questions. Also, she had found three other petitions the Board had considered previously regarding post-employment matters, though none of them was about bidding on RFPs. The relevant sections of the Code are 2-91.2 on post-employment and 2-85(b), regarding contracting with former employees. <br /> <br /> Ms. Schoen asked Mr. McComber to clarify his former position and duties with the County. Mr. McComber said his responsibility was to oversee the community development division, which oversaw project construction management and builders. His current capacity at HOPE Services is service-based and nothing like what he did with the County. HOPE does not develop housing. It is strictly focused on delivering services to the populations residing here. <br /> <br /> Mr. Balsis asked Mr. McComber whether his involvement in the design of the original RFP influenced his present position with HOPE Services. Mr. McComber said no, and he asked Ms. Menino to explain how he came to be employed with HOPE Services. <br /> <br /> Ms. Menino explained that she is a new CEO. HOPE Services was born in October 2010. Her previous tenure had been as homeless programs administrator with the Catholic Diocese, Office of Social Ministry. All of their homeless programs were basically carved out of the Catholic Church and are non-profit, so they can be more mobile and deliver services island-wide. All of their homeless programs are also now under HOPE Services Hawai‘i, and she had to make the big transition from administrator to CEO. However, she was still assigned to being