2013-09-26 Leeward Exh B - Hualalai Partners

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ARAI: The State Land Use Commission has included that as a condition of their decision and order. COMMAND: Right. And so the Department of Education is looking at impact fees that would be imposed prior to a building permit being issued. GIFFIN: Thank you, Bobby. COMMAND: Thank you. GIFFIN: Commissioners, any other questions? BEAUDET: I have a question for staff. GIFFIN: So do I, but go ahead, Brandi. BEAUDET: Testifier number four mentioned certified licensed engineers doing a traffic safety analysis instead of a T.I.A.R. Now, within the T.I.A.R., isn’t pedestrian safety part of the criteria of the assessment? And those performing those T.I.A.R.s, aren’t they licensed? Aren’t they required to be licensed engineers in the State of Hawai‘i? ARAI: When the Planning Department requires T.I.A.R.s, we do look at those reports prepared by an engineer licensed in the State of Hawai‘i. My understanding is that T.I.A.R.s look more at turning movements, rather than just pure capacity. Maybe Mr. Emler of the Department of Public Works can sort of clarify, if he’s able to. EMLER: One of the public testifiers was correct. The traffic study in this case and in most cases pretty much just looks at the intersections. In this case, they didn’t, they could have but they did not look at pedestrian issues at the intersections. I’ve seen that done in some cases where there’s going to be a signal because they want to check what the signal efficiency is going to be with pedestrian crossing. In this case I don’t think the Planning Department necessarily required the T.I.A.R. to be submitted; the applicant did it voluntarily knowing this was going to be an issue and that’s typically done. Let me see, did I answer, what was the specific question again? BEAUDET: I think the biggest concern was not, not relative to intersection but to road safety, both vehicular and pedestrian. I think that’s where the testifier’s emphasis was at, because the case analysis did not involve any, or that type of observation and comment. EMLER: Yeah. Typically I don’t see a private engineering consultant doing that as part of the application process. That’s usually something that’s brought up by, say, Department of Public Works as part of our comments to an application. And we did say that the road is substandard and needs improvement; we admitted that in our comments. I think that’s pretty obvious if you drove, if you’ve driven the road. And we don’t typically do something like an accident analysis or something like that when an application comes through. That’s not something that we’ve done. If we know of particular history, then that’s something we could bring up in our comments. COMMAND: Real quickly. 21 EXHIBIT B