2013-12-05 Windward Transcript - Ocean View

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GONZALES: Brother, Māmalahoa Highway isn’t your pilikia. The swap meet is. We’re not here to talk about all the rest of that stuff. It’s, you know -. PEEBLES: I understand. I’m just trying to make a comparison. Walking across the road, is it more dangerous to walk across Māmalahoa Highway or an off-side road. GONZALES: And, again, we’re not here to discuss that. WESTERVELT: I mean if people park in the -. PEEBLES: Fair enough. WESTERVELT: In the Māmalahoa parking lot they’re not crossing any road at all. They’re crossing a driveway. NITCHE: Can I -? HENKEL: Mr. Chair? ISHIBASHI: Commissioner Henkel. Hang on, Don. Commissioner Henkel. HENKEL: To answer or to respond to your statement about Maku‘u, it’s actually about five different parking lots that’s connected with essentially a private road; and they do take it very seriously the traffic control and pedestrian control. And they don’t let people just park -. If somebody is parked in the wrong place, they make them move. WESTERVELT: But they don’t, they have 100 cars in the parking lot, not on the highway. HENKEL: You can respond to me. If someone is parked in the wrong place, they make them move. If they don’t move, they call the police. You’ve got a private road. If somebody is parked there illegally and you ask them to move and they don’t move you call the police, then it’s a police matter. NITCHE: The police refuse to do anything on private roads. HENKEL: That’s not true. NITCHE: But I’d like to add one thing, directly across the road from where they operate there’s, the County pays rent to have us a park and ride lot. That is taken over completely by the swap meet as well. The County is already paying for that property. HENKEL: Excuse me, excuse me, I still have the floor. NITCHE: When the bus comes it can’t even pull in there. It has got to go -. 11 EXHIBIT B