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<br />PIIANAIA: There may be some trees that we saved in there, kukui and the native plants, but <br />basically, we are not planning a development down there. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: So you are not going to touch that area. <br /> <br />PIIANAIA: Basically not. But perhaps Lehua or Shorty can explain more or the reasons why. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Okay. Lehua? <br /> <br />DIRCKS AH SAM: Yeah, as indicated on the site plan, we are hoping to use the kula plains above <br />the gulch area to focus most of our ethno-botanical activities, because it does make for the best <br />facilitation with the proposed facilities that we are building there. Within the gulch area itself there <br />are some trees that we identified as being there for a pretty long time, and so our intent is to keep <br />this gulch area in as pristine condition as we can, perhaps returning it to where it may have been <br />cultivated, so simple taro patches, but nothing permanent. It’s just all agriculture focusing on <br />maintaining the existing kukui grove that is within the area for cultural purposes. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Okay. So then it’s to the right then where the garden mainly would be. <br /> <br />DIRCKS AH SAM: Yeah, the, where the gulch ends here and then comes into what we call, refer <br />to it as the kula area, we are planning on developing our ethno-botanical gardens more in the area. <br />We do want to include the existing kukui grove. There’s a couple of coconut trees of Hawaiian <br />origins on this edge. And so the hope is to use the gulch and the existing resources. We’ll probably <br />be taking out some of the more invasive species that are hindering the natives’ growth down there. <br />But because of this valuable resource in the gulch area, and knowing Kohala’s limited access to <br />those gulch areas, it is our intent to keep the integrity there. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Great, thank you. Shorty, did you want to add anything else? <br /> <br />BERTELMANN: Yeah, culturally the gulch is very important, because it’s just part of the system <br />that worked before and we are just a part of it. And so keep it, like what Lehua was saying, keep it <br />pristine and make sure that we make the right choices about how we proceed with plans; evasive or <br />non-pervasive or whatever that is, is pretty much what we do. We had bought into this and other <br />people come and kind of take a look at that area to see what that would be like. But, as of right <br />now, the gulch drops off pretty fast, and the right to the right of that whole clear area up there is <br />pretty, kind of flat land for Kohala, and so it would be more feasible for us to stay more to the right <br />than inside the gulch. But, no, no permanent plans to develop the gulch. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Commissioners, any questions for the applicant? Director. <br /> <br />KANUHA: Thank you, Madam Chairwoman. Perhaps somebody could explain for the <br />Commission what the reason is for the request to amend Condition 4 to have a longer time period, a <br />year instead of six months, to do their required work to the existing structures. <br /> <br />GIFFIN: Norman? <br /> <br />5 <br />EXHIBIT A <br /> <br />