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your right hand. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Leeward
<br />Hawai‘i County Planning Commission?
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<br />JENSEN: I do.
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<br />GIFFIN: Thank you. You may proceed.
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<br />JENSEN: Okay, this -.
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<br />DARROW: Mike, please.
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<br />GIFFIN: Oh, the mike. Sorry.
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<br />JENSEN: This is, I’m 95 percent with this project, but I have a concern. My concern has to do
<br />with the imu. They said they had a certified imu. My concern is an open pit system. If they have
<br />an open pit system, which is culturally how it’s done, my concern is if there is the smoke. And that
<br />is my concern, the smoke, because when you are burning the kiawe, bringing the stems up to a
<br />bright red orange color, then you have the banana, you have the ti leaves on there, and then you
<br />place the taro and stuff on it, including the pig, then what it does is start smoldering. It’s not the
<br />beginning fire that I’m concerned about; it’s after the pig comes out of the imu, and people just let
<br />the unburned materials keep smoldering. And sometimes, because my neighbor has done that for a
<br />couple of, several years until recently I finally got his attention. And when somebody who is like
<br />350 pounds standing six-three above you, right, trying to push his issue, but I’m inhaling the smoke,
<br />and this is in Waimea. Now, I finally had to talk to my neighbor and tell him, says, “You know,
<br />you are stealing my health, you are stealing my life, you are stealing my wellbeing.” And what I
<br />don’t want to see is the same thing happen, because I live, my property is downwind of this place.
<br />It’s not directly, the smoke, the smoke doesn’t come directly, but because when the wind hits, or the
<br />smoke hits, the bottom of the hill, gulch, it goes up and then disperses to the trees, and then the
<br />upper wind gets it and pushes onto the land, and then afterwards, you know, to me that will be a
<br />problem. Because then I’ve suffered one place, then I’m now If I’m going to another place, it
<br />bothers me. Because my, the smoke can be smelled, you can smell it three miles away. And to me
<br />it’s a health issue. But if you are talking about a certified imu and you are using propane, I have no
<br />problem. Now, the second thing is that the problem is burning off the aftermath. If they, you know,
<br />like you got a brush burner, which is a propane torch that can burn the thing, you know, after all the
<br />aftermath is bound, you take it and just burn the trash, there is no problem, because then the
<br />smoldering is what I’m concerned about. But other than that, I think it’s a good project, I back it,
<br />but my concern is smoke.
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<br />GIFFIN: Commissioners, any questions of the testifier? I have a question, Mr. Jensen. I gathered
<br />from your testimony, and correct me if I’m wrong, that you live beyond the Lipoa Gulch?
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<br />JENSEN: Yeah, I’m on the Hoea Road.
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<br />GIFFIN: Okay. And in -.
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<br />JENSEN: I have a farm there.
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<br />GIFFIN: In relationship to the map that you see up there, where are you?
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