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<br />Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – February 24, 2014 <br />whatever, so that should have been sufficient enough to almost double the size <br />of the protected area alone – if they just included that. And what we see from <br />3.5% to 22% is quite large so… I know it’s not your doing and, that’s… <br /> <br />L. Hadway: Tony (Sylvester), if I may, I felt it was more accurate and more <br />transparent to show everybody the entire gamut versus just the watershed <br />fences. And I think that, that would be deceptive. And I felt it was important to <br />show all of DOFAW’s projects on the books. <br /> <br />Chair Sylvester: OK. And I appreciate that, thank you. <br /> <br />T. Lodge I have one a question. <br /> <br />Chair Sylvester: Yeah, Tom. <br /> <br />T. Lodge: Why I appreciate what you’re saying here and the fencing is very small <br />th <br />part of this watershed plan at present, at that meeting on the 24 Tony <br />(Sylvester) specifically asked Chair Aila that given the watershed, can we get <br />back to that watershed map ---- one second. That watershed covers the entire <br />area and all of that is priority 1 and priority 2. The goal of priority 1 and priority 2 <br />was to remove all ungulates. Period. I mean that – and Aila confirmed that. Tony <br />(Sylvester) specifically asked him, “Hey, if you had the money today would you <br />get rid of ‘em today?” He said, “Yes.” So the goal ultimately is to, it seems like, <br />remove ungulates from the island, which doesn’t fly with the idea of you know <br />hunting for our children. <br /> <br />Man: \[Unclear\] <br /> <br />L. Hadway: And I’m talking from a perspective of reality of management on the <br />ground and massive planning processes that have gone on – Kohala Watershed <br />Partnership in cooperation with several of the private landowners as well – so <br />you know in terms of the long term, like I said, 10 to 15 years – these are the <br />things that have been planned so you know there is priority watershed that <br />depending on where that rain belt is, is important, but there’s other activities <br />associated with the watershed that are important such as invasive species <br />control – that includes things like if we have some new plant show up like <br />miconia –say it starts moving into Kohala where it isn’t right now – we would <br />probably would be able to use some of the watershed funding to control <br />something like that out there. So… <br /> <br />\[Cannot hear the question\] <br /> <br />L. Hadway: The reason for that is that the animals, in particular the ground layer <br />of vegetation tends to be highly disturbed from – pigs certainly will overturn a lot <br />– it also depends on kind of the where you are and which kind of forest it is – in <br />particular – pigs don’t do as much damage when you have a really hard, dry – <br /> 16 <br /> <br />