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Mr. Hisashima: Yes. Simple, if you folks have a policy or procedure in place, yes you
<br />folks can, why is it a rush to determine guilt on ethics? Send it to us, we look at it, we give you
<br />an informal opinion, if it did or did not. Then you folks can make sanctions, but it goes back to
<br />the Appointing Authority. We will not sanction, it goes back to you folks. Once there’s
<br />sanctions, I’m going to call it in a general investigation, it’s a grieveable item, and it’s not with
<br />us anymore because of the confidentiality. Right?
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<br />Mr. Balsis: I think one of the things you’re mentioning here is that the need, perhaps
<br />for the County to put in more personnel policies and not rely specifically on the Code. And if
<br />they need to bring the policy, and say hey, you know we’d like to have an advisory, does this
<br />policy violate the Code as you implemented that only makes their life easier, as management in
<br />dealing with their employees. I know I find that in my private enterprise that I’m trying to run,
<br />and the more and more litigious society, I’m doing this little policy, and that little policy,
<br />because everybody wants it in black and white, you know and that’s the way society is falling,
<br />whether we like it or not. So, I think it’s a word of advice coming from Glen over here, you
<br />know. Get on the bandwagon, get more policies in there and make it easier for Department
<br />Heads and other people in management of the County to do their jobs. With that anymore
<br />discussion?
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<br />Mr. Adams: Yeah, one more comment I would make is that, voting yes on this
<br />particular, as I understand, and wrap this up, voting yes on this, essentially it means that the
<br />Board is a body that interprets the Code of Ethics for those that want to bring, or feel like they
<br />need to bring something up, there is no, we have no, we’re there if somebody wants to come.
<br />There, that’s essentially what we are and that’s…
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<br />Mr. Balsis: Yes.
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<br />Mr. Adams: That’s what a yes vote means here.
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<br />Mr. Balsis: Call for a vote. All those in favor say aye.
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<br />Mr. Balsis, Mr. Henricks, Mr. Hisashima, Ms. Kahakalau (simultaneously): Aye.
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<br />Mr. Balsis: All those opposed to this motion, say nay.
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<br />Mr. Adams: Nay.
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<br />Mr. Balsis: The vote is 4 to 1 I believe.
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<br />Ms. Schoen: Mr. Chair, before we conclude this matter, I was remiss in not putting this
<br />on the record but, Ms. Kahakalau was not present at the last hearing, however, she was provided
<br />with all the information, the minutes and everything, so if she could just state on the record that
<br />she has reviewed everything and therefore, able to participate today in the vote.
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