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complaint that could come from anybody, any member of the public regarding this post <br />employment requirement. So that’s why I raised the issue, again, to protect the record. And so <br />that’s the basis. The reason as to why again, to protect the record and also to protect Ms. <br />Kawauchi because some of the remedies that stem from this requirement is that the Corporation <br />Counsel could then attempt to attach any financial gain or interest that Ms. Kawauchi has gotten <br />from her client as it relates to that representation so there could be actual specific actions taken <br />against Ms. Kawauchi, so, I’m again as an advisory in my opinion, I’m protecting not only the <br />record but Ms. Kawauchi herself as a former employee of the County. <br /> <br />KAWAUCHI: So, so just to speak to that. The motion that was voted by the Planning <br />th <br />Commission on January 9 was to ask me basically just to take continuance so to have me get an <br />informal opinion by the Board, so I’m a little unclear about why it is that we’re here today <br />because that hasn’t happened yet. Um, the, I did make a request to the Board. I did reserve my <br />client’s rights and my rights for any claims that we may have that we are aware of right now or <br />may be become known to us at a future date. So there’s a reservation of rights within my <br />submission to the Board. There’s also, you know, of course, no admission of any violation of, of <br />you know, of an ethics rule by the County, including the ones cited by Mr. Brilhante. I need to <br />be clear also that if you know this Commission wants to go forward now with sending that letter, <br />you can. In fact, your Planning rules specify that the first matter that’s supposed to be taken up <br />once the petition for standing is submitted is that petition, so your suspending your proceedings <br />to get this informal opinion, which I have no control, neither do you, no one has control when <br />that opinion’s going to be produced, if at all. You know, the Board of Ethics could never <br />produce an opinion. So, the motion that you took is kind of contingent on something that we <br />don’t have control over, is not a matter before this Planning Commission, and also appears to be <br />improper because it’s not, you know, the rules specify you’re supposed to take up the petition for <br />standing first. Also, your rules say, you know, I’m sure if you rely on Roberts Rules of Order for <br />your meetings, your motion really should have been made to a specific time, place, and location, <br />and this, you know this motion that was made is pretty ambiguous you know as to that. So, you <br />can have the other types of issues that could come up because of that motion that was made. <br /> <br />There’s another concern that I have. I was a, my understanding is that, and my client can kind of <br />speak to this as well, that she was informed that if she got rid of me as her attorney that she could <br />have a hearing. I think, is that correct, Susann? <br /> <br />TITA: I am so confused as to how the Commission operates because the last hearing we went to, <br />nothing was ascertained as to standing or, then the next thing I hear is Ms. Jamae is told that she <br />cannot represent me. I hope I’m not blowing anyone here. Um, and now we’re back at a hearing <br />and we have testimony already. I’m, I’m really confused. I was called by Mr. Arai, and I went <br />down to the office. Mr. Arai said to me if you get rid of your lawyer, you can have a hearing. <br />So, I, I, I’m really questioning what’s going on here. How is this supposed to flow? How does <br />this Commission work? And why are we here again is my question when you have no permit. <br />We’re working off of something that doesn’t exist. You’re extending something that doesn’t <br />exist. It’s confusing. And I was told when I asked Mr. Arai who do you really work for? Do <br />you work as non-biased or do you work for the, Hawaiian Acres Community Association, or me, <br />a taxpayer. Where is your position, and he told me I work, I work, I’m helping Hawaiian Acres. <br />I get that general sense that this is the way it’s going. Like a decision’s already been made. So <br />9 <br />EXHIBIT E <br /> <br /> <br />